<div><div dir="auto">I would be happy to help you fill in the checklist, there is a copy of it as both as both a PDF and Markdown. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I also note that the nature of community activity has changed in the last ten years, now that we have engineers who have always open source their expectations with respect to participation (or lack of participation) are being challenging.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Let’s fill in the checklist, and we can discuss if the level of community involvement is appropriate.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This may also be a chance to reach out to your community that you do have (the folks you mentioned) and explain you are willing to be more open (less private email) and expect their increased involvement. Review the the social context associated with your project and do a bit of a “reset” of expectations on both sides. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It may seem like a bit of overhead (it is) but both parties are paid back in a safer project. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:06 AM Mäkinen Sami (MML) <<a href="mailto:sami.makinen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">sami.makinen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m from the Oskari team and we are still interested in graduating. The problem is we don’t really know what we can do to take the next step/graduate. The last messages about the incubation
for our project as I gathered was that people who posted on this list seemed happy with how we are handling things but our mentor Arnulf pointed out that there doesn’t seem to be too much of a visible community activity around the project. We have the mailing
list which we are urging people to use instead of private emails, we have companies that are doing business using Oskari here in Finland, we have Iceland who has adopted Oskari as their geoportal, we have Gitter where people occasionally drop by to ask something
in addition to GitHub issues. I agree that outside of the core development there’s not too much external communication or pull requests coming in and I don’t know the specifics how to decide if it’s enough to justify graduating. I think we would be happy to
be a community project as well if being a “full member” is not justified.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sami Mäkinen<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="FI" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-2369240450842989310WordSection1">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Lähettäjä:</b> Incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
<b>Puolesta </b>Jody Garnett<br>
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<b>Vastaanottaja:</b> OSGeo-incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Aihe:</b> [Incubator] recognizing projects that are not incubating<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we have an easy way to recognize projects that are not interested in incubation.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The following projects have not updated their "incubation status" page to the "graduation checklist". Kind of means no progress/interest since since the document was released at least five years ago:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/IstSOS_Incubation_Status" target="_blank">istSOS Incubation Status</a> - last updated in 2016 to change mentor to Jeff McKenna<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MetaCRS_Incubation_Status" target="_blank">MetaCRS Incubation Status</a> - Individual projects can enter the "OSGeo community" program, and enter incubation as their interest. In practice MetaCRS itself is operating as an initiative gathering
up interested projects for the occasional collaboration?<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oskari_Incubation_Status" target="_blank">Oskari Incubation Status</a> - last edited 2017<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
TEAM Engine - it is not on the wiki but I Luis was working on a checklist during the FOSS4GNA sprint?<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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