<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 from me too<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sorry, I have been offline for a while.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Bruce</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 6 Nov 2019, at 18:35, Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks for your votes, everyone! If I am not mistaken the final tally looks like<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">- Bruce Bannerman<br class="">- Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br class="">- Howard Butler | Ineligible, member of PROJ PSC<br class="">- Arnulf Christl +1<br class="">- Jo Cook +1<br class="">- Jody Garnett +1<br class="">- Dimitris Kotzinos<br class="">- Tom Kralidis +1 seconded<br class="">- Julien-Samuel Lacroix +1<br class="">- Mark Lucas<br class="">- Michael Smith +1 initial motion<br class="">- Steve Lime +1<br class="">- Daniel Morissette +1<br class="">- Markus Schneider<br class="">- Cameron Shorter +1<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Which brings the total number of +1’s to 9 out of 14 possible votes. That is well over the 50% mark. I believe that means that PROJ has graduated as an OSGeo project! So, what’s next?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">/Kristian<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>4. november 2019 22:35<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OSGeo-incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" class="">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Sorry for my delayed response, with Michael's recommendation I am happy to vote +1.<br clear="all" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Jody Garnett<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 01:01, Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">All,<br class=""><br class="">I'd like to remind you that the vote for PROJ graduation ends tomorrow. The votes so far are<br class=""><br class="">- Bruce Bannerman<br class="">- Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br class="">- Howard Butler<br class="">- Arnulf Christl +1<br class="">- Jo Cook +1<br class="">- Jody Garnett<br class="">- Dimitris Kotzinos<br class="">- Tom Kralidis +1 seconded<br class="">- Julien-Samuel Lacroix<br class="">- Mark Lucas<br class="">- Michael Smith +1 initial motion<br class="">- Steve Lime<br class="">- Daniel Morissette +1<br class="">- Markus Schneider<br class="">- Cameron Shorter<br class=""><br class="">Which is 5 of a possible 15 votes. As 50% in favour of PROJ graduation is required, +1's from<br class="">at least three more members of the incubation committee is needed. I hope that is achievable<br class="">so that PROJ can finally become a full project in the OSGeo family.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you,<br class="">Kristian<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: 27. oktober 2019 16:58<br class="">To: Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>>; Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: OSGeo-incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion<br class=""><br class="">Sorry, I missed the last message, didn't realize you were waiting on an assessment from me.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">I would agree with Kristian that the PROJ incubation process was very smooth. As stated, PROJ is not a new project as has been foundational for Open Source projects for years. It was the recent efforts of people like Kristian and the rest of the PSC to move to a bigger community of contributors and having an actual PSC were key factors in making PROJ a real OSGeo Project in full standing.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Mike<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Michael Smith<br class="">OSGeo Treasurer<br class=""><a href="mailto:treasurer@osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">treasurer@osgeo.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">From: Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>><br class="">Date: Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM<br class="">To: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>, Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: OSGeo-incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">Subject: RE: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion<br class=""><br class="">Jody,<br class=""> <br class="">The Contributor Covenant code of conduct has now been accepted by the PROJ community [0].<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class="">The question of whether we are breaking the terms of use of the EPSG registry or not has been raised several times. I think the most complete discussion is found in the incubation application ticket [1]. The EPSG terms of use allow both redistribution and modification of the dataset. Modification of the dataset is only allowed provided that the data is no longer ascribed to the EPSG though. In the PROJ distribution the data from the EPSG registry is reworked into our own database that has a slightly different structure. The data is not modified otherwise. The data from the EPSG is currently put under the same license (MIT) as the rest of the PROJ source distribution. Personally I believe that what we are doing is within the terms of use of the EPSG registry. This has been confirmed by the Debian organization which I regard as a stamp of approval, since those guys tend to be rather strict when it comes to licensing. The reasoning by the Debian folks is available in the incubation application [1].<br class=""> <br class="">As for the incubation process itself, I think it has gone rather smoothly. Over the last couple of years PROJ has matured quite a bit organizationally, having most of the requirements for incubation in place long before the application was submitted. Filling out the incubation checklist was fairly simple, although it is a long list to go through. For PROJ it was mostly a case of documenting already established procedures and we haven’t really had to make a lot of changes to comply with the incubation requirements. The most tedious job was the Provenance Review, but since we’ve always been using a very permissive license no surprises showed up.<br class=""> <br class="">/Kristian<br class=""> <br class="">[0]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://proj.org/community/code_of_conduct.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://proj.org/community/code_of_conduct.html</a><br class="">[1]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268</a><br class=""> <br class="">From: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: 20. oktober 2019 04:36<br class="">To: Kristian Evers <<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>>; Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: OSGeo-incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [Incubator] proj graduation discussion<br class=""> <br class="">Thanks, I will hold off voting while we wait for the CoC to be established, and until we hear from Michael (this is also our chance to hear from the proj team about how incubation worked out)<br class=""> <br class="">On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Kristian Evers <mailto:<a href="mailto:kreve@sdfe.dk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kreve@sdfe.dk</a>> wrote:<br class="">Jody,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class="">I am working on both the CoC and the OSGeo project page.<br class="">The first is addressed here <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-October/008931.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-October/008931.html</a>.<br class=""> <br class="">I’ve added the logo and various links to the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://osgeo.org/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://osgeo.org</a> page. Better descriptions<br class="">of the features of PROJ are still needed. Hopefully I’ll get round to that this weekend.<br class=""> <br class="">Thanks for your input.<br class=""> <br class="">/Kristian<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 17 Oct 2019, at 18:34, Jody Garnett <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""> <br class="">Disclaimer: I helped Michael and the PROJ team a couple times at code sprints get setup for incubation so this is not the first time I have reviewed.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class="">Before we start though, Michael as mentor your have been hanging out with the PROJ team. Were there any questions during incubation, and procedures changed or clarified? How did it go?<br class=""> <br class="">Useful links:<br class="">-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://proj.org/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://proj.org/</a> (this looks *great* congrats, and thanks for including the osgeo community logo)<br class="">-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/proj4/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.osgeo.org/projects/proj4/</a> <-- this needs a fair bit of work (like a logo, website link, issue tracker, downloads, ...)<br class="">-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2268</a><br class="">-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/wiki/Incubation-checklist" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/wiki/Incubation-checklist</a> - we need a code of conduct somewhere (I just checked the repo).<br class=""> <br class="">With respect to code of conduct, this is a new requirement from the board and the incubation committee has not yet updated our checklist.<br class="">--<br class="">Jody Garnett<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Incubator mailing list<br class="">mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a><br class=""> <br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">--<br class="">Jody Garnett<br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Incubator mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" class="">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>