<div dir="ltr">Peter what is the physical aspect, we are not presenting this as an active project, only offering to host the code (on osgeo github) and setup a web page on <a href="http://osgeo.org/projects/moss">osgeo.org/projects/moss</a> <div>The questions on how to cite source code can honestly be left to the libraries and legal scholars.<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 03:05, Peter Löwe <<a href="mailto:peter.loewe@gmx.de">peter.loewe@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Jody, Bruce, all,<br>
<br>
IMHO, the first step should be the permanent preservation of the rediscovered MOSS codebase.<br>
However, other tasks, including metadata, should also be considered and might be useful for future work by the Incubation Committee<br>
<br>
The codebase has been remained unchanged for a long time (static ?).<br>
There are no active developers or project members.<br>
There is no project mailing list.<br>
There is currently no point of contact on the OSGeo side.<br>
There is no best practice yet how to cite the MOSS project in publications (citation by URL is deprecated by publishers and librarians). <br>
OSGeo has no process and/or physical location yet to deal with physical specimens (books, documentation, storage devices)<br>
Do we need a role within in OSGeo to act as a "caretaker" for the project ?<br>
<br>
I believe some of these tasks can be resolved quickly by learning other parties:<br>
<br>
- The R project has already put a lot of thought into how to give due credit. Their approach is based on a classification of roles by the Library of Congress, USA.<br>
<br>
- The Library of BLM in Denver has a small collection of MOSS related documents and could be contacted regarding additional documents and their digitisation.<br>
<br>
- Once the codebase is on Osgeo GitHub, it can be recorded in the open-access repository Zenodo (<a href="http://www.zenodo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.zenodo.org</a>, open source based, a permanent research infrastructure provided by the EC) for long time reference and citation. This would allow to cite the MOSS project and the codebase by a DOI (permanent identifier, designed to outlast URL-based links).<br>
<br>
I can offer to update the upcoming OSGeo Website based on MOSS wiki pages and handle the tasks related to Zenodo, if we want to do that.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Peter<br>
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<<a href="mailto:peter.loewe@gmx.de" target="_blank">peter.loewe@gmx.de</a>><br>
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:13:58 -0700<br>
> From: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [Incubator] MOSS "heritage" project<br>
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> I hope it won't require much effort, I really just want to put the codebase<br>
> on osgeo github (wider reach than our gitlab), and set up a page on the<br>
> website (perhaps link to it from the sol katz award page).<br>
> <br>
> Perhaps I missed something, I am not aware of any hardcopy materials, if<br>
> there are any it would be up to <a href="mailto:secretary@osgeo.org" target="_blank">secretary@osgeo.org</a> to manage.<br>
> --<br>
> Jody Garnett<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 17:38, Bruce Bannerman <<br>
> <a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Hi Jody,<br>
> ><br>
> > I’ve been following the discussions on the Board list.<br>
> ><br>
> > I can still remember being trained in MOSS in the mid 80’s. It certainly<br>
> > made an impression on me having then come from a mainly Intergraph IGDS<br>
> > background.<br>
> ><br>
> > I believe that:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - It is appropriate for OSGeo to be the ‘Home’ for the legacy MOSS IP<br>
> > and artefacts.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - It will probably require some effort to put this together.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - From the discussions that I’ve seen so far, I suspect that there is<br>
> > also hardcopy material as well that will need to be archived:<br>
> > - I recall a similar discussion a year or two ago about some legacy<br>
> > GRASS hardcopy materials.<br>
> > - I don’t know that a group of virtual volunteers is necessarily<br>
> > the right forum for preserving these hardcopy artefacts.<br>
> > - Where could they be physically located and preserved?<br>
> > - However, the hardcopy artefacts may be very important as evidence<br>
> > of ‘prior art’, for those organisations and countries that need to deal<br>
> > with ’software patents’.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Kind regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Bruce<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 7 Oct 2020, at 14:54, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Apparently the source code for the MOSS project, the work of Sol Katz, has<br>
> > been recovered.<br>
> > Starting an email thread with respect to providing a "home" for this<br>
> > source code at OSGeo (figured the incubation committee was in the best<br>
> > position to act).<br>
> ><br>
> > Holding on to inactive projects, is good in terms of IP precedence, and in<br>
> > this case as a historical artifact.<br>
> ><br>
> > The discussion on the board has proposed a "heritage" status, we already<br>
> > have project retiring process<br>
> > <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Retiring_Process" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Retiring_Process</a>>, used for<br>
> > community mapbuilder (see #322 <<a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/322" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/322</a>>).<br>
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