<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Jody,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I don’t expect anything constructive from the AGM. People won’t have time to reflect.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">…now what is a ‘Framework’?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I suggest that we define what we support and take it from there. We can always adjust, if required.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Kind regards,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bruce</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 4 Sep 2021, at 05:27, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Bruce,<div><br></div><div>I did not get anything useful from the board; perhaps it is a subject for the AGM.</div><div><br></div><div>For now the way forward seems to be to recast the platform as a framework and ensure the resulting software stack and be picked up and run independently (with a quickstart or similar).</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 21:57, Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Thanks Jody,<div><br></div><div>Personally:</div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>I don’t mind a situation where an open source project attempts to develop and maintain software that is intended to integrate a number of software components into a working product which could perhaps be called a platform.</li></ul><div><br></div><ul><li>I can see many situations where the ‘platform’ might deploy both components and the platform’s specific customisations concurrently.</li></ul><div><br></div><ul><li>However, I would not support a situation where that product (or platform) can only be implemented once. I’d prefer that it can be implemented many times by different organisations.</li></ul><div><br></div><ul><li>While such a ‘platform’ project would look after its own "integration related software", I’d see that the individual components would be subject to their own open source project community’s governance practices.</li></ul><div><br></div><ul><li>This could get quite messy, when the integration related software is actually a customisation of an existing software component with its own open source community already in existence. This would require careful and close collaboration between both communities…</li></ul><div><br></div><div>That will do for now, let’s see what others think.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Bruce</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 15 Jul 2021, at 01:21, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">It is indeed overloaded, and no I cannot clarify as the applicants that are coming in are slightly different from each other.<div><br></div><div>Turn-key portals such as <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/choose-a-project/information-technology/portal/" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/choose-a-project/information-technology/portal/</a> these showcase a range of projects. Some like geomoose are presented as frameworks, others like GC2/Vidi are presented as a platform.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be cautious about an open source project that just supports a single website (like <a href="http://github.com/mapstory" target="_blank">http://github.com/mapstory</a>), but perhaps that is my own bias? There is an advantage to users of a platform being able to review the code responsible for the service they are using. But this represents new ground for OSGeo, hence the discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>I also brought this discussion to the osgeo board list; so we do not need to decide on our own.</div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 18:56, Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Jody,<br>
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The concept of a platform is quite overloaded and means different things to different people.<br>
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Can you please clarify what you mean by ‘platform’?<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Bruce<br>
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> On 12 Jul 2021, at 18:30, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Discussion topic for incubation committee:<br>
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> We are getting applications from platforms seeking to join OSGeo.<br>
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> What do you think?<br>
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> Jody Garnett<br>
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