<div dir="auto">Arnulf:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would love to have a video chat meeting for the incubation committee and see what our priorities should be.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The lost documents are on the old osgeo site; new documents were created but not for everything (<div dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/documents">https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/documents</a>).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We have had new members join, they send an email asking to volunteer. We prune the existing membership based on particpation as needed. I think some recruiting would be in order; especially as open-source seems to be evolving to face new challenges.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jody</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:17 PM Arnulf Christl <<a href="mailto:arnulf.christl@metaspatial.net">arnulf.christl@metaspatial.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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Just seeing that my last edit of the Mentor Guidelines [1] is almost
10 years old. Won't hurt to revisit... :-) <br>
<br>
Also, some stable documents are gone [2], [3] we should look into
fixing this. <br>
<br>
When we started out with OSGeo we had the hen and egg problem of
coders also wanting to promote their "own" project and we even had
some competing projects (pun intended). We were therefore especially
careful to craft the rules so as to avoid bias within the committee
and also to be as transparent as possible. This is still perfectly
valid. <br>
<br>
From my experience the mentor does not really have much of a say in
accepting a project, they can only help the project do their
homework and then recommend it for graduation. The vote happens
publicly by committee members and then needs to be promoted to the
board of directors who have the last say. In case we get there I
would be happy to abstain from the vote - hoping that we still have
enough active members to get a representative vote at all. <br>
<br>
Which brings me to another aspect of the incubation committee: How
can new members join, so far we have mostly only lost old members?
Should we maybe actively reach out to generate some interest in the
process? I do think that the whole incubation thingy may become more
interesting again seeing some projects stray from real Open Source
to "mixed" models and even plainly locked-up proprietary licenses
and governance. This topic may morph into a new thread if there are
others interested in following up. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Seven<br>
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[1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Mentor_Guidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Mentor_Guidelines</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html</a><br>
[3]
<a href="http://old.www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html" target="_blank">http://old.www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a>
referenced from
<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/mentor/" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/mentor/</a><br>
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<div>Am 25.07.23 um 20:03 schrieb Jody
Garnett:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> Greg:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Really we just need someone with a few moments of
time to check if your project meets the <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_Community_Projects_Program" target="_blank">join the osgeo community program</a>. </div>
<div dir="ltr">You are not seeking a mentor presently.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">OSGeo asked us to write down how we operate here: <font style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Committee_Operation" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Committee_Operation</a></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Some folks have chosen to vote +0 or -0 if they
feel they are too close to a project. There is no requirement to
do this however - the important part is that we have clear
communication.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Jul 25, 2023 at 9:51:40 AM,
Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank">gdt@lexort.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div> I am not really clear on the details here, but I would
think that the<br>
osgeo person doing mentorship should not have *any*
conflict of interest<br>
about the project. Or perhaps it is strictly 'mentor' and
has nothing<br>
to do with the approval process.<br>
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