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    Just seeing that my last edit of the Mentor Guidelines [1] is almost
    10 years old. Won't hurt to revisit... :-) <br>
    <br>
    Also, some stable documents are gone [2], [3] we should look into
    fixing this. <br>
    <br>
    When we started out with OSGeo we had the hen and egg problem of
    coders also wanting to promote their "own" project and we even had
    some competing projects (pun intended). We were therefore especially
    careful to craft the rules so as to avoid bias within the committee
    and also to be as transparent as possible. This is still perfectly
    valid. <br>
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    From my experience the mentor does not really have much of a say in
    accepting a project, they can only help the project do their
    homework and then recommend it for graduation. The vote happens
    publicly by committee members and then needs to be promoted to the
    board of directors who have the last say. In case we get there I
    would be happy to abstain from the vote - hoping that we still have
    enough active members to get a representative vote at all. <br>
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    Which brings me to another aspect of the incubation committee: How
    can new members join, so far we have mostly only lost old  members?
    Should we maybe actively reach out to generate some interest in the
    process? I do think that the whole incubation thingy may become more
    interesting again seeing some projects stray from real Open Source
    to "mixed" models and even plainly locked-up proprietary licenses
    and governance. This topic may morph into a new thread if there are
    others interested in following up. <br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    Seven<br>
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    [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Mentor_Guidelines">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Mentor_Guidelines</a><br>
    [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html">https://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html</a><br>
    [3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://old.www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://old.www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a>
    referenced from
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/mentor/">https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/mentor/</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 25.07.23 um 20:03 schrieb Jody
      Garnett:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"> Greg:</div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Really we just need someone with a few moments of
        time to check if your project meets the <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_Community_Projects_Program"
          moz-do-not-send="true">join the osgeo community program</a>. </div>
      <div dir="ltr">You are not seeking a mentor presently.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">OSGeo asked us to write down how we operate here: <font
          color="#419cff"><a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Committee_Operation"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Committee_Operation</a></font></div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Some folks have chosen to vote +0 or -0 if they
        feel they are too close to a project. There is no requirement to
        do this however - the important part is that we have clear
        communication.</div>
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                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Jul 25, 2023 at 9:51:40 AM,
          Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gdt@lexort.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div> I am not really clear on the details here, but I would
              think that the<br>
              osgeo person doing mentorship should not have *any*
              conflict of interest<br>
              about the project.  Or perhaps it is strictly 'mentor' and
              has nothing<br>
              to do with the approval process.<br>
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