<div dir="ltr"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>..Tom<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:10 PM Michael Smith via Incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
+1 <br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 10/2/24, 3:02 PM, "Incubator on behalf of Angelos Tzotsos via Incubator" <<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
+1<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/2/24 17:49, Nick Bearman via Incubator wrote:<br>
> Hi James, Jody, it sounds like you came to a conclusion with your <br>
> discussions. If you have anything to add, or clarify, please do so!<br>
><br>
> Given that we got diverted, I will re-open the motion to include Terra <br>
> Draw project in OSGeo community initiative:<br>
><br>
> Angelos Tzotsos<br>
> Arnulf Christl<br>
> Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br>
> Brian M Hamlin<br>
> Daniel Morissette<br>
> Dimitris Kotzinos<br>
> Frank Warmerdam<br>
> Jo Cook<br>
> Jody Garnett (chair)<br>
> Michael Smith<br>
> Nick Bearman +1<br>
> Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)<br>
> Steve Lime<br>
> Tom Kralidis<br>
><br>
> Two weeks from now will take us to 16th October.<br>
><br>
> Please do reply!<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
> Nick.<br>
><br>
> On 19/09/2024 17:09, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>> Most headers just indicate the license name and say available in the <br>
>> root of the software project or something. I do understand that JS <br>
>> projects are sensitive to character count - so it is fine to avoid <br>
>> headers - as long as you are doing so on purpose. I think there is <br>
>> often a compile step these days for JS projects that takes care of <br>
>> comments (and even long variable names).<br>
>><br>
>> As for Leaflet - the OSGeo website is very much in the "empower <br>
>> everyone" mandate and lists all the projects it can.<br>
>> It is for all foss4g software - and is not limited to those that <br>
>> decided to join the foundation. This is about serving the public <br>
>> after all.<br>
>> - -<br>
>> Jody Garnett<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sep 19, 2024 at 4:01:52 AM, James Milner <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Jody,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for writing out those points, interesting reading. I <br>
>>> appreciate that the file headers are probably a better practice from <br>
>>> a licensing perspective, although there is a slight trade off in <br>
>>> that they can add some 'bulk' to files so to speak which add some <br>
>>> friction. Let me think about that a bit more and what might work <br>
>>> well there. Are you aware of scenarios where people simply reference <br>
>>> the copyright name and date and the license name, rather than the <br>
>>> full license text? That might be a good compromise. On the Leaflet <br>
>>> point, it is worth noting that the project is listed on the OSGeo <br>
>>> website under projects which might be slightly confusing: Leaflet - <br>
>>> OSGeo <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/</a>> <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>> All the best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> James<br>
>>><br>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> *Sent:* 19 September 2024 08:02<br>
>>> *To:* James Milner <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>; Nick <br>
>>> Bearman <<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>>><br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw community <br>
>>> project initative<br>
>>> Hi James,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am happy - the point is to have this conversation and check that <br>
>>> you are doing things on purpose.<br>
>>><br>
>>> * We did confirm that a copyright is not needed on the top of each<br>
>>> file, it is just a good practice, but revision history can<br>
>>> establish authorship.<br>
>>> * We were advised by a lawyer a few years ago that it was a good<br>
>>> practice to have a license at the top of each file - since many<br>
>>> folks discover code by searching these days.<br>
>>> (So not a requirement just passing that on).<br>
>>> * OpenLayers did the much more extensive checking each file history<br>
>>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review</a>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review&gt</a>;>, they<br>
>>> also have a CLA so great tradability that everyone understood<br>
>>> they were adding to an open source project.<br>
>>> * Leaflet is a great project but not associated with OSGeo<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> - -<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sep 19, 2024 at 12:43:47 AM, James Milner <br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey Jody,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for your reply. I guess I am still looking for a<br>
>>> definition of what you mean by 'applied correctly' in this<br>
>>> scenario. The repository has an MIT License file and there is no<br>
>>> source code in the project (to my knowledge) that is not MIT<br>
>>> compatibly licensed. To my understanding, unlike Apache 2 or GPL<br>
>>> the MIT Licence does not require it to be referenced at the top<br>
>>> of every source file.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If it is a requirement of being a OSGeo Community Project I can<br>
>>> look at how we could apply a short notice to the top of the<br>
>>> source files. Just an observation on this more broadly though, I<br>
>>> checked the source for OpenLayers (BSD-2)<br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js&gt</a>;> and<br>
>>> Leaflet (BSD-2)<br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js&gt</a>;>,<br>
>>> and neither seem to have a notice at the top of their source files.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regarding the documentation, currently I would consider the docs<br>
>>> to be MIT Licensed although with the rest of the project, but I<br>
>>> see why the docs been CC0 being helpful. Let me think on that as<br>
>>> it's a great point.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> James<br>
>>><br>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
>>> *Sent:* 19 September 2024 04:42<br>
>>> *To:* James Milner <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>>><br>
>>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>> <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>>; Nick Bearman<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>>>><br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw community<br>
>>> project initative<br>
>>> I am looking for an assurance from you that the license has been<br>
>>> applied correctly.<br>
>>><br>
>>> *The assur*ance that you have checked, and perhaps showing the PR<br>
>>> would be /just fine./<br>
>>><br>
>>> When reviewing I try and find:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. An example of a file that can be fixed:<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts</a> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts&gt</a>;><br>
>>> This file does not have a header - do you expect it to?<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2. An example of a check from another project (this is a MIT<br>
>>> project that recently became a community project):<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py</a> <<a href="https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>> An example of a js file from another community project:<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js</a> <<a href="https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Does that help?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also a question for you as an MIT project... do you consider the<br>
>>> MIT license as applying to the documentation?<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs</a> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>> Some project choose a CC license?<br>
>>> <a href="https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/</a> <<a href="https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/</a>> <<a href="https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>> * CC0 or CC BY 4.0 is close in spirit to MIT allowing writers<br>
>>> to remix the documentation into their own work<br>
>>> * CC BY-SA 4.0 is close in spirit to GPL (copyleft approach<br>
>>> must retain license)<br>
>>> * MIT ... um ... consider the documentation source code (imply<br>
>>> that authors need to cite / quote your work like a book)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Also many thanks :)<br>
>>> - -<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sep 16, 2024 at 10:39:08 AM, James Milner<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>>> <br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Jody,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hope you're well. Thanks for raising this - I wasn't sure if<br>
>>> it was needed for me to respond here or Nick, but can you<br>
>>> clarify what you mean by file headers in this situation?<br>
>>> Terra Draw is MIT licensed and the released library does not<br>
>>> currently have any runtime dependencies (we do have some<br>
>>> development time dependencies). In addition we do adapt some<br>
>>> code from the MIT licensed Turf.js project and we call this<br>
>>> out at the start of files where it happens. I just raised a<br>
>>> PR that standardises and clarifies those acknowledgements a<br>
>>> bit better.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Let me know if I can do anything else I can do to ensure this<br>
>>> requirement is met.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> James<br>
>>><br>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* Incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>> on behalf of Jody<br>
>>> Garnett via Incubator <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>><br>
>>> *Sent:* 10 September 2024 16:02<br>
>>> *To:* Nick Bearman <<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>>>><br>
>>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>> <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>><br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw<br>
>>> community project initative<br>
>>> You can propose Nick,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think Regina just went over the checklist<br>
>>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page</a>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page&gt</a>;> for<br>
>>> website page?<br>
>>><br>
>>> For the osgeo community project checklist<br>
>>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative</a>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative&gt</a>;>...<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am especially interested in conforming that Terra Draw has<br>
>>> gone through their file headers (this is the first step of<br>
>>> the code providence review that takes such a long time in<br>
>>> incubation).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Context: For the website we ask that they choose a license.<br>
>>> To be community project we ask that they check that it is<br>
>>> applied correctly.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> - -<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sep 10, 2024 at 8:12:19 AM, Nick Bearman via Incubator<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> (I think I can formally propose this, tell me if I am<br>
>>> wrong and it should be Jody as Chair!)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I would like to make the following motion:<br>
>>><br>
>>> > Motion to include Terra Draw project in OSGeo community<br>
>>> initiative<br>
>>><br>
>>> The repository is here<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw&gt</a>;> and meets<br>
>>> our OSGeo<br>
>>> community initiative checklist (thanks Regina)<br>
>>><br>
>>> The motion is held open for two weeks until 24th September.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Angelos Tzotsos<br>
>>> Arnulf Christl<br>
>>> Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br>
>>> Brian M Hamlin<br>
>>> Daniel Morissette<br>
>>> Dimitris Kotzinos<br>
>>> Frank Warmerdam<br>
>>> Jo Cook<br>
>>> Jody Garnett (chair)<br>
>>> Michael Smith<br>
>>> Nick Bearman<br>
>>> Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)<br>
>>> Steve Lime<br>
>>> Tom Kralidis<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Best wishes,<br>
>>> Nick.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 30/08/2024 10:10, James Milner via Incubator wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey Jody and Regina,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks both for getting back to me with the review.<br>
>>> Apologies, I probably could have been a bit more<br>
>>> detailed in my original email after viewing some of<br>
>>> the other email applications! I followed the<br>
>>> instructions provided, it was all very clear no real<br>
>>> feedback except I missed where to upload the 'framed<br>
>>> screenshot' image but figured it out eventually. The<br>
>>> template images were really helpful with the correct<br>
>>> dimensions and layouts needed.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would actually say the more complicated part, and<br>
>>> maybe I missed something here, was the initial<br>
>>> process of getting here. I was mostly following<br>
>>> instructions for Incubation Committee - OSGeo<br>
>>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page</a>> <<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page&gt</a>;> rather<br>
>>> than Add a Project - OSGeo<br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/</a>> <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/&gt</a>;> which<br>
>>> may have confused things slightly, as it took me a<br>
>>> while to figure out how to sign up for an OSGeo ID<br>
>>> then get the mantra, then also sign up for the<br>
>>> mailing list. Maybe the wiki should just link to the<br>
>>> OSGeo Add a Project page rather than having two<br>
>>> 'sources of truth' so to speak? I also wonder if the<br>
>>> OSGeo signup process could be simplified to use some<br>
>>> sort of automated CAPTCHA rather than emailing the<br>
>>> mantra? Hope this is helpful feedback.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have submitted the Terra Draw project for review,<br>
>>> let me know if there are any adjustments to make.<br>
>>><br>
>>> All the best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> James<br>
>>><br>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> *Sent:* 28 August 2024 20:47<br>
>>> *To:* Regina Obe <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>>><br>
>>> *Cc:* James Milner <<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>>;<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Terra Draw<br>
>>> Seems good, thanks for your application James and<br>
>>> review Regina.<br>
>>><br>
>>> James I would really *love* your feedback on the new<br>
>>> "Add a project<br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/</a>>" <<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/&gt;&quot" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/&gt;&quot</a>;><br>
>>> instructions. Easy feedback like typos, but most<br>
>>> importantly and confusion or questions you have.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have added "project author" to your profile.<br>
>>> - -<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Aug 28, 2024 at 1:28:31 PM, Regina Obe<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> +1 looks okay to me.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. I see license file<br>
>>> 2. contributing file<br>
>>> 3. getting started guides -<br>
>>> <a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md</a> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md</a>> <<a href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md&gt</a>;><br>
>>> 4. Many releases<br>
>>> 5. Healthy number of contributors<br>
>>><br>
>>> @Jody Garnett <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>> any<br>
>>> concerns?<br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* Incubator<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>>> *On<br>
>>> Behalf Of *James Milner via Incubator<br>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2024 2:54 PM<br>
>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><br>
>>> *Subject:* [Incubator] Terra Draw<br>
>>><br>
>>> Incubation committee:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would like to ask permission to list my project<br>
>>> "Terra Draw" on the OSGeo website in order to<br>
>>> share my work with the community.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Terra Draw is a JavaScript library which allows<br>
>>> for drawing and editing of geometries on maps. It<br>
>>> works with a selection of different mapping<br>
>>> providers, including Leaflet, MapLibre and<br>
>>> OpenLayers and has been going for over 2 years<br>
>>> now and I am eager to help more people use it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The repository is located here:<br>
>>> <a href="https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a> <<a href="https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a>> <<a href="https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw&gt</a>;> and<br>
>>> is released under the MIT license<br>
>>><br>
>>> My OSGeo userid is "jameslmilner" and I will need<br>
>>> permission to create a project page.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> James<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Incubator mailing list <a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a>> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>> -- Nick Bearman +44 (0) 7717745715 <a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" target="_blank">nick@nickbearman.com</a>>>- New email address! Please<br>
>>> let me know if I can make any adjustments related to<br>
>>> disability or neurodivergence to improve how we interact.<br>
>>> Due to my own life/work balance, you may get emails from<br>
>>> me outside of normal working hours. Please do not feel<br>
>>> any pressure to respond outside of your own working <br>
>>> pattern.<br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Incubator mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>> <br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a>> <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator&gt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator&gt</a>;><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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