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    +1 Arnulf<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02.10.24 16:49, Nick Bearman via
      Incubator wrote:<br>
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      <p>Hi James, Jody, it sounds like you came to a conclusion with
        your discussions. If you have anything to add, or clarify,
        please do so!</p>
      <p>Given that we got diverted, I will re-open the motion to
        include Terra Draw project in OSGeo community initiative:</p>
      <p>Angelos Tzotsos<br>
        Arnulf Christl<br>
        Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br>
        Brian M Hamlin<br>
        Daniel Morissette<br>
        Dimitris Kotzinos<br>
        Frank Warmerdam<br>
        Jo Cook<br>
        Jody Garnett (chair)<br>
        Michael Smith<br>
        Nick Bearman +1<br>
        Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)<br>
        Steve Lime<br>
        Tom Kralidis</p>
      <p>Two weeks from now will take us to 16th October. <br>
      </p>
      <p>Please do reply!</p>
      <p>Best wishes,<br>
        Nick.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/09/2024 17:09, Jody Garnett
        wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr"> Most headers just indicate the license name and
          say available in the root of the software project or
          something. I do understand that JS projects are sensitive to
          character count - so it is fine to avoid headers - as long as
          you are doing so on purpose. I think there is often a compile
          step these days for JS projects that takes care of comments
          (and even long variable names).</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">As for Leaflet - the OSGeo website is very much
          in the "empower everyone" mandate and lists all the projects
          it can.</div>
        <div dir="ltr">It is for all foss4g software - and is not
          limited to those that decided to join the foundation. This is
          about serving the public after all. </div>
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                  <div>- -<br>
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                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sep 19, 2024 at
            4:01:52 AM, James Milner <<a
              href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
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            wrote:<br>
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                  Hi Jody,<br>
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                  Thanks for writing out those points, interesting
                  reading. I appreciate that the file headers are
                  probably a better practice from a licensing
                  perspective, although there is a slight trade off in
                  that they can add some 'bulk' to files so to speak
                  which add some friction. Let me think about that a bit
                  more and what might work well there. Are you aware of
                  scenarios where people simply reference the copyright
                  name and date and the license name, rather than the
                  full license text? That might be a good compromise. On
                  the Leaflet point, it is worth noting that the project
                  is listed on the OSGeo website under projects which
                  might be slightly confusing: <a
                    href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/"
                    id="OWA2ee62657-4fca-eacd-defb-e3f19efe44c5"
                    class="OWAAutoLink" moz-do-not-send="true"> Leaflet
                    - OSGeo</a> </div>
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                  All the best,<br>
                  <br>
                  James</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From:</b> Jody
                    Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> 19 September 2024 08:02<br>
                    <b>To:</b> James Milner <<a
                      href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a
                      href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                    <<a href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
                    Nick Bearman <<a
                      href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nick@nickbearman.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project
                    Terra Draw community project initative</span>
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                <div style="direction:ltr">Hi James,</div>
                <div style="direction:ltr"><br>
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                <div style="direction:ltr">I am happy - the point is to
                  have this conversation and check that you are doing
                  things on purpose. </div>
                <div style="direction:ltr"><br>
                </div>
                <ul style="direction:ltr;margin:0px">
                  <li style="direction:ltr">We did confirm that a
                    copyright is not needed on the top of each file, it
                    is just a good practice, but revision history can
                    establish authorship.</li>
                  <li style="direction:ltr">We were advised by a lawyer
                    a few years ago that it was a good practice to have
                    a license at the top of each file - since many folks
                    discover code by searching these days.<br>
                    (So not a requirement just passing that on).</li>
                  <li style="direction:ltr">OpenLayers did the much more
                    extensive <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review"
                      id="OWAe9de67dc-f641-8aa5-ccf0-7e311acb3c45"
                      class="OWAAutoLink" moz-do-not-send="true">
                      checking each file history</a>, they also have a
                    CLA so great tradability that everyone understood
                    they were adding to an open source project. <br>
                  </li>
                  <li style="direction:ltr">Leaflet is a great project
                    but not associated with OSGeo</li>
                </ul>
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                <div style="direction:ltr">- -</div>
                <div style="direction:ltr">Jody Garnett</div>
                <div style="direction:ltr"><br>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div style="direction:ltr">On Sep 19, 2024 at
                  12:43:47 AM, James Milner <<a
                    href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
                    id="OWA11b2591b-c8a0-0a6b-3548-a5e84c962c4d"
                    class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:</div>
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                    Hey Jody,<br>
                    <br>
                    Thanks for your reply. I guess I am still looking
                    for a definition of what you mean by 'applied
                    correctly' in this scenario. The repository has an
                    MIT License file and there is no source code in the
                    project (to my knowledge) that is not MIT compatibly
                    licensed. To my understanding, unlike Apache 2 or
                    GPL the MIT Licence does not require it to be
                    referenced at the top of every source file.</div>
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                    If it is a requirement of being a OSGeo Community
                    Project I can look at how we could apply a short
                    notice to the top of the source files. Just an
                    observation on this more broadly though, I checked
                    the source for <a
href="https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js"
                      id="OWAee493711-d0a9-6304-69d0-4e8888b93dca"
                      class="x_OWAAutoLink" moz-do-not-send="true">
                      OpenLayers (BSD-2)</a> and <a
href="https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js"
                      id="OWAd1a8d60c-9c4c-4f7d-4c58-e85d1016e30a"
                      class="x_OWAAutoLink" moz-do-not-send="true">
                      Leaflet (BSD-2)</a>, and neither seem to have a
                    notice at the top of their source files.<br>
                    <br>
                    Regarding the documentation, currently I would
                    consider the docs to be MIT Licensed although with
                    the rest of the project, but I see why the docs been
                    CC0 being helpful. Let me think on that as it's a
                    great point.</div>
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                    Many thanks,<br>
                    <br>
                    James<br>
                    <br>
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                  <div dir="ltr" id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From:</b> Jody
                      Garnett <<a
                        href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
                        id="OWA87e40616-58f7-51a8-74b6-099a1abc421a"
                        class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> 19 September 2024 04:42<br>
                      <b>To:</b> James Milner <<a
                        href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
                        id="OWA5d63b1eb-67aa-8273-c429-13870bc965fc"
                        class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>><br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> <a
                        href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                        id="OWA272ab0b0-2e5e-ab06-e3fe-99008fd1335d"
                        class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a
                        href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                        id="OWA9042ac14-ad30-0e79-1ed5-4c47ff77186b"
                        class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>>;
                      Nick Bearman <<a
                        href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com"
                        id="OWA937e37e0-60f6-08d4-dc97-26cb53f94f1d"
                        class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">nick@nickbearman.com</a>><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project
                      Terra Draw community project initative</span>
                    <div> </div>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr">I am looking for an
                    assurance from you that the license has been applied
                    correctly.</div>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr"><b>The assur</b>ance that
                    you have checked, and perhaps showing the PR would
                    be <i>just fine.</i></div>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr">When reviewing I try and
                    find:</div>
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                    <li style="direction:ltr">An example of a file that
                      can be fixed: <a
href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts"
                        id="OWA7b8a5a8c-7b85-7b7b-47c8-a49ef3ef3e95"
                        class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">
https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts</a><br>
                      This file does not have a header - do you expect
                      it to?<br>
                      <br>
                    </li>
                    <li style="direction:ltr">An example of a check from
                      another project (this is a MIT project that
                      recently became a community project):<br>
                      <a
href="https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py"
                        id="OWA3b96a7c4-22f5-6b17-1d6b-d03548d00c1a"
                        class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py</a><br>
                      <br>
                      An example of a js file from another community
                      project:<br>
                      <a
href="https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js"
                        id="OWA3b96d58c-1411-0039-5296-1c7540e0ca2a"
                        class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js</a><br>
                    </li>
                  </ol>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr">Does that help?</div>
                  <div style="direction:ltr"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div style="direction:ltr">Also a question for you as
                    an MIT project... do you consider the MIT license as
                    applying to the documentation? <a
href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs"
                      id="OWAb1b4ce1a-dae7-fb9b-6a93-b999d8cb437f"
                      class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">
https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs</a></div>
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                  </div>
                  <div style="direction:ltr">Some project choose a CC
                    license? <span style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"> <a
                        href="https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/"
                        id="OWA6b4ce7f3-3449-f6d7-9eb7-3435af957b76"
                        class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/</a></span> </div>
                  <ul style="direction:ltr;margin:0px">
                    <li style="direction:ltr">CC0 or CC BY 4.0 is close
                      in spirit to MIT allowing writers to remix the
                      documentation into their own work</li>
                    <li style="direction:ltr">CC BY-SA 4.0 is close in
                      spirit to GPL (copyleft approach must retain
                      license)<br>
                    </li>
                    <li style="direction:ltr">MIT ... um ... consider
                      the documentation source code (imply that authors
                      need to cite / quote your work like a book)</li>
                  </ul>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr">Also many thanks :)</div>
                  <div style="direction:ltr">- -</div>
                  <div style="direction:ltr">Jody Garnett</div>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">On
                    Sep 16, 2024 at 10:39:08 AM, James Milner <<a
                      href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
                      id="OWAcb89ad19-f6ff-3a4c-c690-5ea5c2d5a262"
                      class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">jamesmilner22@hotmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
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                      Hi Jody,<br>
                      <br>
                      Hope you're well. Thanks for raising this - I
                      wasn't sure if it was needed for me to respond
                      here or Nick, but can you clarify what you mean by
                      file headers in this situation? Terra Draw is MIT
                      licensed and the released library does not
                      currently have any runtime dependencies (we do
                      have some development time dependencies). In
                      addition we do adapt some code from the MIT
                      licensed Turf.js project and we call this out at
                      the start of files where it happens. I just raised
                      a PR that standardises and clarifies those
                      acknowledgements a bit better.<br>
                      <br>
                      Let me know if I can do anything else I can do to
                      ensure this requirement is met.<br>
                      <br>
                      Many thanks,<br>
                      <br>
                      James</div>
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style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <hr
style="direction:ltr;display:inline-block;width:98%">
                    <div dir="ltr" id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From:</b> Incubator
                        <<a
href="mailto:incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                          id="OWA39e2a83b-8983-4d65-66b4-7f96120b99d6"
                          class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">incubator-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
                        on behalf of Jody Garnett via Incubator <<a
                          href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                          id="OWA59a7d55f-ffd8-2c9e-dea7-43de878440ef"
                          class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2024 16:02<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Nick Bearman <<a
                          href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com"
                          id="OWA867b034f-e26e-6f9e-112a-94df8bda9500"
                          class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">nick@nickbearman.com</a>><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                          id="OWA7a28ea01-0f00-8da1-b4de-22680685bb03"
                          class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a
                          href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                          id="OWA2ead0882-d7d3-b166-ff99-d20c2a8b6133"
                          class="x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project
                        Terra Draw community project initative</span>
                      <div> </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">You
                      can propose Nick, </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr"><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">I think Regina
                        just went over the </span><span
                        style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page"
                          id="OWAf2b2b5d8-d91d-825b-c03c-17733a247662"
                          class="x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                          style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">checklist</a></span><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"> for website
                        page?</span></div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr"><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">For the osgeo
                        community project </span><span
                        style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative"
                          id="OWAec7f6f59-311c-ac44-4b28-9a899420d1bf"
                          class="x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                          style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">checklist</a></span><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">...</span></div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">I
                      am especially interested in conforming that Terra
                      Draw has gone through their file headers (this is
                      the first step of the code providence review that
                      takes such a long time in incubation).</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">Context:
                      For the website we ask that they choose a license.
                      To be community project we ask that they check
                      that it is applied correctly.</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">-
                      -</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">Jody
                      Garnett</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr"><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">On Sep 10, 2024
                        at 8:12:19 AM, Nick Bearman via Incubator <</span><span
                        style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                          href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
                          id="OWA48213be0-f1d9-6113-b8a4-ec80fc5c2e11"
                          class="x_x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><span
                        style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">> wrote:</span></div>
                    <blockquote
                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">(I think I can
                          formally propose this, tell me if I am wrong
                          and it should be Jody as Chair!)</span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">I would like to
                          make the following motion:<br>
                          <br>
                          > Motion to include Terra Draw project in
                          OSGeo community initiative<br>
                          <br>
                          The repository is here </span><span
                          style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw"
                            id="OWAb28eb9eb-9452-85a9-3e0c-ba1dba6dbb35"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext x_x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
style="color:rgb(65,156,255);margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a></span><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"> and meets our
                          OSGeo<br>
                          community initiative checklist (thanks Regina)<br>
                          <br>
                          The motion is held open for two weeks until
                          24th September.</span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">Angelos Tzotsos<br>
                          Arnulf Christl<br>
                          Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques<br>
                          Brian M Hamlin<br>
                          Daniel Morissette<br>
                          Dimitris Kotzinos<br>
                          Frank Warmerdam<br>
                          Jo Cook<br>
                          Jody Garnett (chair)<br>
                          Michael Smith<br>
                          Nick Bearman<br>
                          Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)<br>
                          Steve Lime<br>
                          Tom Kralidis</span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">Best wishes,<br>
                          Nick.</span></p>
                      <p style="direction:ltr"><span
                          style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </span></p>
                      <div style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">On
                        30/08/2024 10:10, James Milner via Incubator
                        wrote:</div>
                      <blockquote>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          Hey Jody and Regina,<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks both for getting back to me with the
                          review. Apologies, I probably could have been
                          a bit more detailed in my original email after
                          viewing some of the other email applications!
                          I followed the instructions provided, it was
                          all very clear no real feedback except I
                          missed where to upload the 'framed screenshot'
                          image but figured it out eventually. The
                          template images were really helpful with the
                          correct dimensions and layouts needed.</div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          I would actually say the more complicated
                          part, and maybe I missed something here, was
                          the initial process of getting here. I was
                          mostly following instructions for <span
                            style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page"
id="OWAce23171d-3a95-23d5-6d2d-447118964689" class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Incubation
                              Committee - OSGeo</a></span> rather than <span
                            style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"> <a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/"
id="OWA5f2fde32-9835-6c37-6899-afd3bd87962d" class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Add a Project -
                              OSGeo</a></span> which may have confused
                          things slightly, as it took me a while to
                          figure out how to sign up for an OSGeo ID then
                          get the mantra, then also sign up for the
                          mailing list. Maybe the wiki should just link
                          to the OSGeo Add a Project page rather than
                          having two 'sources of truth' so to speak? I
                          also wonder if the OSGeo signup process could
                          be simplified to use some sort of automated
                          CAPTCHA rather than emailing the mantra? Hope
                          this is helpful feedback.</div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          <br>
                          I have submitted the Terra Draw project for
                          review, let me know if there are any
                          adjustments to make. </div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          All the best,<br>
                          <br>
                          James</div>
                        <div
style="direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <hr
style="direction:ltr;display:inline-block;width:98%">
                        <div dir="ltr" id="x_x_x_divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From:</b> Jody
                            Garnett </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
id="OWA8f93898a-d5eb-7729-7501-8fc897deef92"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"><jody.garnett@gmail.com></a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> 28 August 2024 20:47<br>
                            <b>To:</b> Regina Obe </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us"
id="OWA52732abc-7e59-f4ca-7619-9c82e5c4e11d"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"><lr@pcorp.us></a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> James Milner </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:jamesmilner22@hotmail.com"
id="OWA8557cd90-71dc-892f-b504-761fd5aacc33"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"><jamesmilner22@hotmail.com></a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">;
                          </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
id="OWAde029b36-ae64-eb94-9e78-788a706c1211"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated x_x_OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                          </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
id="OWAcd6e36a9-68cd-e6fa-dafc-54f42cceed31"
class="x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"><incubator@lists.osgeo.org></a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Incubator] Terra Draw</span>
                          <div> </div>
                        </div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">Seems
                          good, thanks for your application James and
                          review Regina.</div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="direction:ltr"><span
                            style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">James I would
                            really *love* your feedback on the new "</span><span
                            style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/"
id="OWA85cee7a5-4c53-32a0-7e52-e4b3c2105e3e" class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Add a project</a></span><span
                            style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">"
                            instructions. Easy feedback like typos, but
                            most importantly and confusion or questions
                            you have.</span></div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">I
                          have added "project author" to your profile. </div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">-
                          -</div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)">Jody
                          Garnett</div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div
                          style="direction:ltr;color:rgb(155,155,155)"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="direction:ltr"><span
                            style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">On Aug 28,
                            2024 at 1:28:31 PM, Regina Obe <</span><span
                            style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                              href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us"
id="OWA75bd487e-b5ce-672f-162e-645ef2622fd8"
class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink x_x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">lr@pcorp.us</a></span><span
                            style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">> wrote:</span></div>
                        <blockquote
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
                          <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(155,155,155)">+1 looks okay to me.</span></p>
                          <ol style="direction:ltr;margin-top:0in"
                            start="1">
                            <li
style="color:rgb(155,155,155);direction:ltr;margin-left:0in"><span
                                style="font-size:11pt">I see license
                                file</span></li>
                            <li
style="color:rgb(155,155,155);direction:ltr;margin-left:0in"><span
                                style="font-size:11pt">contributing file</span></li>
                            <li
style="color:rgb(155,155,155);direction:ltr;margin-left:0in"><span
                                style="font-size:11pt">getting started
                                guides - </span><span
style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md"
id="OWA06732fad-4bbe-94a3-5a3b-e7543d47728b"
class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink x_x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                  style="color:rgb(65,156,255)"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md</a></span></li>
                            <li
style="color:rgb(155,155,155);direction:ltr;margin-left:0in"><span
                                style="font-size:11pt">Many releases</span></li>
                            <li
style="color:rgb(155,155,155);direction:ltr;margin-left:0in"><span
                                style="font-size:11pt">Healthy number of
                                contributors</span></li>
                          </ol>
                          <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(155,155,155)"> </span></p>
                          <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
                                href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
id="OWAAMA0072091360448508DFB6A2663EA7911"
style="color:rgb(65,156,255);margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">@Jody Garnett</a></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(155,155,155)"> any concerns?</span></p>
                          <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(155,155,155)"> </span></p>
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                                  <</span><span
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                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Milner via
                                  Incubator<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28,
                                  2024 2:54 PM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> </span><span
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                                  <b>Subject:</b> [Incubator] Terra Draw</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Incubation
                                committee:</span></p>
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                            <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I would like to
                                ask permission to list my project "Terra
                                Draw" on the OSGeo website in order to
                                share my work with the community.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Terra Draw is a
                                JavaScript library which allows for
                                drawing and editing of geometries on
                                maps. It works with a selection of
                                different mapping providers, including
                                Leaflet, MapLibre and OpenLayers and has
                                been going for over 2 years now and I am
                                eager to help more people use it.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The repository
                                is located here: </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(65,156,255)"><a
href="https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw"
id="OWA5d30fbb1-0bfa-4b3f-d54b-8cc8ff2353be"
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style="color:rgb(65,156,255);margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw</a></span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> and is released
                                under the MIT license</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></p>
                            <p style="direction:ltr"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">My OSGeo userid
                                is "jameslmilner" and I will need
                                permission to create a project page.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Many thanks,<br>
                                <br>
                                James</span></p>
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                      style="color:rgb(155,155,155)">-- 
Nick Bearman
+44 (0) 7717745715
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                      style="color:rgb(155,155,155)"> - New email address!

Please let me know if I can make any adjustments related to disability or neurodivergence to improve how we interact.

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      href="mailto:nick@nickbearman.com" moz-do-not-send="true">nick@nickbearman.com</a> - New email address!

Please let me know if I can make any adjustments related to disability or neurodivergence to improve how we interact.

Due to my own life/work balance, you may get emails from me outside of normal working hours. Please do not feel any pressure to respond outside of your own working pattern.</pre>
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