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    Peter,<br>
    <br>
    "the board needs a mandate to act (& delegate)."<br>
    <br>
    The board *has* a mandate to act & delegate bylaw.<br>
    The board is responsible for the representation of the organisation.
    <br>
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    The only thing: the board needs to *use* this mandate to act &
    delegate.<br>
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    D.<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25-08-14 09:32, Peter Baumann wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">extremely important discussion, great
        to see the pieces come together! <br>
        We're getting at it: like any organization acting in the public,
        OSGeo needs a comprehensive, carefully crafted communication
        strategy, including clear-cut messages suitable for the target
        groups (not ourselves!), manifest, eg, in ready-made slide
        decks, posters and flyers that can be readily printed &
        distributed; plus well-defined, efficient decision processes -
        ie, the board needs a mandate to act (& delegate).<br>
        <br>
        my 2 cents,<br>
        Peter<br>
        <br>
        PS: I agree that "fair trade open source" is nice, but IMHO we
        shouldn't open yet another challenge while the basic one -
        effective market communication - is still unsolved.<br>
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        <br>
        On 08/25/2014 08:48 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>
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        <p dir="ltr">Not so fast, there are already rules, how to speak
          on behalf of OSGeo. Everybody always drops an e-mail to the
          list, and informs/asks for permission to speak on behalf of
          OSGeo. </p>
        <p dir="ltr">Board members are going to some events, but as
          already said, we have big community of autonomous people and
          this is our strength.</p>
        <p dir="ltr">So, once you would like to have OSGeo presented on
          some event, ask in the list and talk about it.</p>
        <p dir="ltr">What we are missing are some rules regarding our
          brand and representation used on business cards ... Funny,
          topic actually</p>
        <p dir="ltr">Jachym</p>
        <p dir="ltr">Send from cellphone</p>
        <p dir="ltr">-- <br>
          Jachym Cepicky<br>
          e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
          URL: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>
          GPG: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a></p>
        <p dir="ltr">Give your code freedom with PyWPS -<a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a></p>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 25, 2014 2:19 AM, "Karel
          Charvat" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>> wrote:<br
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I agree with
                    this, but on other side, we need some rules how to
                    do this. I was in past in leadership of other
                    organisation EFITA and now  I am in leadership of
                    Club of Ossiach. But in any case, there are
                    necessary to define rules, how to go, how to speak
                    on behalf of community. It is not good and
                    impossible  if for example anybody will speak or
                    make presentation on behalf of Community. In such
                    case, it could be chaos.  For example to have
                    presentation on conferences or eventually organise
                    some exhibition has to be task of responsible
                    persons (Probably board of President), I can promote
                    OSGEO as part of our activities, but I cannot go for
                    example to European Commission and speak on behalf
                    of OSGEO. Every time some responsibility is
                    necessary</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Karel</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span
                    style="font-size: 11pt;"> Jachym Cepicky [mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>] <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org"
                      target="_blank">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a>; Even
                    Rouault; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com"
                      target="_blank">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> RE: [Industry] development model vs
                    business model</span></p>
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                <p>Hi Karel,</p>
                <p>As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as
                  possible, but it never is one man show. You are
                  registered as OSGeo advocate as well, as well as other
                  community members. It was always said, that community
                  is our biggest strength. And this is the case.</p>
                <p>Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other
                  communities. But Foss4g-europe is about our community,
                  to support it.</p>
                <p>Just 2 cents</p>
                <p>Jachym</p>
                <p>Send from cellphone</p>
                <p>-- <br>
                  Jachym Cepicky<br>
                  e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
                  URL: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://les-ejk.cz" target="_blank">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>
                  GPG: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp"
                    target="_blank">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a></p>
                <p>Give your code freedom with PyWPS -<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org"
                    target="_blank">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel
                    Charvat" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz" target="_blank">charvat@ccss.cz</a>>

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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
                      all,<br>
                      I would like make some comments from position of 
                      business. I am new in this forum, but I am long
                      time involved as manager in integration of system
                      and development of software (mainly OS}. We are
                      using OSGEO products and we are also trying to put
                      our development towards community, so support OS
                      development (not OSGEO products, there we have
                      only small contribution).<br>
                      But I have to say, that not many others companies
                      in Czech are doing the same and probably they
                      don’t plan to do the some. I am sure, that most of
                      them respect license, but they use OS in the some
                      way as proprietary software, only without
                      obligation to pay (and this is main reason).<br>
                      It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade
                      branch, but what is necessary to start build
                      OSGEPO brand. I am afraid, that most of developers
                      and also customers (public servant's} are aware
                      about OSGEO.<br>
                      And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not
                      way, how to reach community. I am sure, that
                      information about FOSS4GI (Europe) is well
                      reaching community OSGEO community, but not to
                      much outside. So there is necessary, that OSGEO
                      will be active outside of FOSS4GI events, local
                      national European, Global. Only this is the way.<br>
                      I think  that in Czech Jachym start to do it in
                      good way, but all is long process<br>
                      Karel<br>
                      <br>
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                      From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:industry-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank">industry-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                      [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:industry-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank">industry-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                      On Behalf Of Dirk Frigne<br>
                      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM<br>
                      To: Even Rouault; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                      Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs
                      business model<br>
                      <br>
                      Even,<br>
                      <br>
                      On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:<br>
                      > Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz
                      Łoskot a écrit :<br>
                      >> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com"
                        target="_blank">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      >>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:<br>
                      >>><br>
                      >>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:<br>
                      >>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this
                      snippet from the thread<br>
                      [...]<br>
                      ><br>
                      > If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open
                      source" label (or more<br>
                      > specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo
                      software"),  it would be difficult<br>
                      > to do that in a ... fair way, because you
                      would have to measure<br>
                      > somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo
                      with respect to the value made by using OSGeo
                      software.<br>
                      The fact something will be difficult does not mean
                      impossible.<br>
                      The first thing we would have to do is to define
                      why open source (in general - but as far as we are
                      concerned for Geo) is important, and what is
                      "fair" and what is not.<br>
                      This can be done by listening to people who are
                      using open source for business. Why they choose
                      for OSGeo software, and what they think is fair
                      (or only legal).<br>
                      <br>
                      I think a good opportunity to start with this is
                      the proposed business track on the next
                      FOSS4G-Europe conference. The idea's for such a
                      business track are being discussed in the thread
                      "when and where" [1].<br>
                      From such testimonials we can learn what "we"
                      define as "Fair" and establish guidelines, which
                      when followed allows a business entity, an
                      academic user or an administration to label
                      themselves as respecting these guidelines.<br>
                      This could be a good first start for this
                      difficult task.<br>
                      <br>
                      ><br>
                      > Even<br>
                      D.<br>
                      [1]<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html"
                        target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html</a><br>
                      <br>
                      --<br>
                      Yours sincerely,<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      ir. Dirk Frigne<br>
                      CEO<br>
                      <br>
                      Geosparc n.v.<br>
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                      B-9030 Ghent<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">-- 
Dr. Peter Baumann
 - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
   <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a>
   mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>
   tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
   <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a>, mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a>
   tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)


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Yours sincerely,


ir. Dirk Frigne
CEO

Geosparc n.v.
Brugsesteenweg 587
B-9030 Ghent
Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 
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