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Karel,<br>
<br>
What you say is correct. But there are presentations of OSGeo,
presented by the president on many FOSS4G conferences. There is also
a presentation about the Live-DVD, explaining in short the different
projects, and there is of cource the website (which is a wiki
style), where thoughts and decisions and rules are formulated.<br>
<br>
Given this, it is possible for me to represent and talk about OSGeo
on many occasions and explain the mission. Of course to speak on
behalf, as in any company or organisation , you need be member of
the board, or a mandate to do so.<br>
<br>
D.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25-08-14 02:19, Karel Charvat wrote:<br>
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lang="EN-GB">I agree with this, but on other side, we need
some rules how to do this. I was in past in leadership of
other organisation EFITA and now I am in leadership of Club
of Ossiach. But in any case, there are necessary to define
rules, how to go, how to speak on behalf of community. It is
not good and impossible if for example anybody will speak
or make presentation on behalf of Community. In such case,
it could be chaos. For example to have presentation on
conferences or eventually organise some exhibition has to be
task of responsible persons (Probably board of President), I
can promote OSGEO as part of our activities, but I cannot go
for example to European Commission and speak on behalf of
OSGEO. Every time some responsibility is necessary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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Jachym Cepicky [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a>; Even Rouault;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Industry] development model vs business
model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Karel,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as possible, but
it never is one man show. You are registered as OSGeo advocate
as well, as well as other community members. It was always
said, that community is our biggest strength. And this is the
case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other
communities. But Foss4g-europe is about our community, to
support it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just 2 cents<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jachym<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Send from cellphone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-- <br>
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e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel Charvat"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi all,<br>
I would like make some comments from position of
business. I am new in this forum, but I am long time
involved as manager in integration of system and
development of software (mainly OS}. We are using OSGEO
products and we are also trying to put our development
towards community, so support OS development (not OSGEO
products, there we have only small contribution).<br>
But I have to say, that not many others companies in Czech
are doing the same and probably they don’t plan to do the
some. I am sure, that most of them respect license, but
they use OS in the some way as proprietary software, only
without obligation to pay (and this is main reason).<br>
It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade branch,
but what is necessary to start build OSGEPO brand. I am
afraid, that most of developers and also customers (public
servant's} are aware about OSGEO.<br>
And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way, how to
reach community. I am sure, that information about FOSS4GI
(Europe) is well reaching community OSGEO community, but
not to much outside. So there is necessary, that OSGEO
will be active outside of FOSS4GI events, local national
European, Global. Only this is the way.<br>
I think that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good way,
but all is long process<br>
Karel<br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of Dirk Frigne<br>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM<br>
To: Even Rouault; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business
model<br>
<br>
Even,<br>
<br>
On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:<br>
> Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz Łoskot a
écrit :<br>
>> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:<br>
>>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this snippet
from the thread<br>
[...]<br>
><br>
> If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source"
label (or more<br>
> specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"), it
would be difficult<br>
> to do that in a ... fair way, because you would have
to measure<br>
> somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with
respect to the value made by using OSGeo software.<br>
The fact something will be difficult does not mean
impossible.<br>
The first thing we would have to do is to define why open
source (in general - but as far as we are concerned for
Geo) is important, and what is "fair" and what is not.<br>
This can be done by listening to people who are using open
source for business. Why they choose for OSGeo software,
and what they think is fair (or only legal).<br>
<br>
I think a good opportunity to start with this is the
proposed business track on the next FOSS4G-Europe
conference. The idea's for such a business track are being
discussed in the thread "when and where" [1].<br>
From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define as
"Fair" and establish guidelines, which when followed
allows a business entity, an academic user or an
administration to label themselves as respecting these
guidelines.<br>
This could be a good first start for this difficult task.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Even<br>
D.<br>
[1]<br>
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<br>
<br>
ir. Dirk Frigne<br>
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Yours sincerely,
ir. Dirk Frigne
CEO
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Brugsesteenweg 587
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Tel: +32 9 236 60 18
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