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Hi Karel,<br>
<br>
OSGeo already has a page to do that synchronisation. You only have
to use it.<br>
you can submit new events: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/events/submit_events">http://www.osgeo.org/events/submit_events</a><br>
<br>
you can look up upcoming events here:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/event/2014/09/01/month/all/all/1">http://www.osgeo.org/event/2014/09/01/month/all/all/1</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
D. :-)<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29-08-14 06:48, Karel Charvat wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Hu Dirk,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I think, that this require much more
synchronisation. For example to know, who is planning to go
present on some event etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Karel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dirk Frigne [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:managementsupport@geosparc.com">managementsupport@geosparc.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Industry] development model vs
business model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Karel,<br>
<br>
I didn't mean that these available presentations should only
be used on FOSS4G events.<br>
I suggested that the material in these presentations can be
used by all the members of OSGeo to be used in business events
and talks to spread the ideas of OSGeo on a larger scale.<br>
Also to the decision makers.<br>
<br>
This in respons to your remark there could be chaos, and you
didn't know how to speak on behalf of the community. There is
material that has been discussed by the OSGeo community and
can be used for such cases.<br>
<br>
My 2c<br>
D.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27-08-14 07:17, Karel Charvat wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Hi Dirk,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Yes, it is true, But take into consideration,
that most of IT company managers and also public servants
taking decision about moneys are not participating on this
events.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">So probably this presentation are not target
on important community</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Karel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Dirk Frigne [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 25, 2014 8:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Industry] development model vs
business model</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Karel,<br>
<br>
What you say is correct. But there are presentations of
OSGeo, presented by the president on many FOSS4G
conferences. There is also a presentation about the
Live-DVD, explaining in short the different projects, and
there is of cource the website (which is a wiki style),
where thoughts and decisions and rules are formulated.<br>
<br>
Given this, it is possible for me to represent and talk
about OSGeo on many occasions and explain the mission. Of
course to speak on behalf, as in any company or organisation
, you need be member of the board, or a mandate to do so.<br>
<br>
D.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25-08-14 02:19, Karel Charvat wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I agree with this, but on other side, we
need some rules how to do this. I was in past in
leadership of other organisation EFITA and now I am in
leadership of Club of Ossiach. But in any case, there
are necessary to define rules, how to go, how to speak
on behalf of community. It is not good and impossible
if for example anybody will speak or make presentation
on behalf of Community. In such case, it could be chaos.
For example to have presentation on conferences or
eventually organise some exhibition has to be task of
responsible persons (Probably board of President), I can
promote OSGEO as part of our activities, but I cannot go
for example to European Commission and speak on behalf
of OSGEO. Every time some responsibility is necessary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Karel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
Jachym Cepicky [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karel Charvat<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
Even Rouault; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Industry] development model vs
business model</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Hi Karel,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as possible,
but it never is one man show. You are registered as OSGeo
advocate as well, as well as other community members. It
was always said, that community is our biggest strength.
And this is the case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other
communities. But Foss4g-europe is about our community, to
support it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just 2 cents<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jachym<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Send from cellphone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-- <br>
Jachym Cepicky<br>
e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
URL: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>
GPG: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Give your code freedom with PyWPS -<a
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href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel
Charvat" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz">charvat@ccss.cz</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
all,<br>
I would like make some comments from position of
business. I am new in this forum, but I am long time
involved as manager in integration of system and
development of software (mainly OS}. We are using
OSGEO products and we are also trying to put our
development towards community, so support OS
development (not OSGEO products, there we have only
small contribution).<br>
But I have to say, that not many others companies in
Czech are doing the same and probably they don’t plan
to do the some. I am sure, that most of them respect
license, but they use OS in the some way as
proprietary software, only without obligation to pay
(and this is main reason).<br>
It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade
branch, but what is necessary to start build OSGEPO
brand. I am afraid, that most of developers and also
customers (public servant's} are aware about OSGEO.<br>
And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way,
how to reach community. I am sure, that information
about FOSS4GI (Europe) is well reaching community
OSGEO community, but not to much outside. So there is
necessary, that OSGEO will be active outside of
FOSS4GI events, local national European, Global. Only
this is the way.<br>
I think that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good
way, but all is long process<br>
Karel<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Dirk Frigne<br>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM<br>
To: Even Rouault; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:industry@lists.osgeo.org">industry@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business
model<br>
<br>
Even,<br>
<br>
On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:<br>
> Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz Łoskot
a écrit :<br>
>> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dirk.frigne@geosparc.com">dirk.frigne@geosparc.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:<br>
>>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this
snippet from the thread<br>
[...]<br>
><br>
> If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source"
label (or more<br>
> specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"), it
would be difficult<br>
> to do that in a ... fair way, because you would
have to measure<br>
> somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with
respect to the value made by using OSGeo software.<br>
The fact something will be difficult does not mean
impossible.<br>
The first thing we would have to do is to define why
open source (in general - but as far as we are
concerned for Geo) is important, and what is "fair"
and what is not.<br>
This can be done by listening to people who are using
open source for business. Why they choose for OSGeo
software, and what they think is fair (or only legal).<br>
<br>
I think a good opportunity to start with this is the
proposed business track on the next FOSS4G-Europe
conference. The idea's for such a business track are
being discussed in the thread "when and where" [1].<br>
From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define
as "Fair" and establish guidelines, which when
followed allows a business entity, an academic user or
an administration to label themselves as respecting
these guidelines.<br>
This could be a good first start for this difficult
task.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Even<br>
D.<br>
[1]<br>
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--<br>
Yours sincerely,<br>
<br>
<br>
ir. Dirk Frigne<br>
CEO<br>
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Yours sincerely,
ir. Dirk Frigne
CEO
Geosparc n.v.
Brugsesteenweg 587
B-9030 Ghent
Tel: +32 9 236 60 18
GSM: +32 495 508 799
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