[Java-collab] IRC Meeting followup

Sun Jul 26 00:01:02 EDT 2009

Hi Landon:

I have talked to Martin a bit (mostly around the technical steps of
breaking apart Geometry into two layers: Geometry and Operations - in
order to share operations implementations between a SFSQL and ISO19107
implementations). We both estimated costs (he was half my cost) and
have been looking for sponsorship for a couple of years. I have also
been sending interested parties his way as recently as last month; but
without money on the table I suspect the really great way forward is
closed off to us.

So lets sneak up on it slowly with this java-collab geometry project
:-) It is easier to get funding if we can point to an existing effort
after all.

So far I have gone over the geotools-collab agreement
(http://docs.codehaus.org/download/attachments/9765352/GeotoolsAssignmentToOSGeo.pdf?version=1)
and it just mentions assignment to OSGeo; and that the code will be
stored on GeoTools servers. This is fine to use as is ... to store the
geometry code in a "spike" directory (where GeoTools has often
supported collaboration experiments in the past).

I would appreciate  your take on the OSGeo Labs steps required.

Cheers,
jody

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Sunburned
Surveyor<sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think I will have time to work on the actual code, but I would
> be happy to assist Jody (or whoever) with a review of any documents
> needed to get an OSGeo Labs project started.
>
> Just let me know.
>
> Has anyone thought about asking Martin Davis if he will participate?
>
> Landon
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Markus Schneider<schneider at lat-lon.de> wrote:
>> Hi Jody,
>>
>> sorry for being unresponsive last week, but I was heavily involved in customer projects work :-(
>>
>> We also would like start with the collaboration ASAP. Here's my stance on the open questions:
>>
>> == License ==
>>
>> LGPL is just fine for us.
>>
>> == Code contribution agreement ==
>>
>> Can you provide a draft for this? Probably the GeoTools agreement should work fine (at least as the starting point).
>>
>> == Hosting==
>>
>> I would prefer OSGeo labs as the mid-term/long-term solution as this expresses the inter-project character. @Jody: How
>> long will it take to get this started? If this is not feasible however, we should just host it at the GeoTools or
>> deegree SVN -- after all the most important thing is getting work done and not the question where we host it.
>>
>> What about other needed tools? Will TRAC do for a homepage / wiki?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>> Hi Markus:
>>>
>>> The red tape involved in getting this going is making me sad. What
>>> woudl it take to get Andrea, myself and other interested parties into
>>> the a seperate module in the deegree repository?
>>>
>>> Jody
>>>
>>>> Hello Jody,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your efforts. Hans Plum of intevation.org suggested another option: setting it up as a separate project at
>>>> http://wald.intevation.org/ (where deegree is hosted as well).
>>>>
>>>> I guess we would like to see it either as a separate project or (at least in the mid-term) hosted it as a separate
>>>> module in the deegree repository -- after all, we're going to start with the corresponding code base from deegree 3, right?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Markus / Rutger
>>>>
>>>> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>> With respect to an svn repository for java-collab.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went and asked on the incubation list about setting up an svn to
>>>>> hold java-collab work. And got a very polite reply from Frank asking
>>>>> if this could be hosted in the existing osgeo svn repository for
>>>>> geotools.
>>>>>
>>>>> - there is an over head associated with an svn repository
>>>>> - we have not sorted out any of the code license/commit
>>>>> access/contribution questions
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend LGPL as both Deegree and GeoTools are comfortable with this license.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now markus has offered to set up an isolated repository on the
>>>>> deegree svn. We could also follow franks suggestion and offer access
>>>>> to http://svn.osgeo.org/geotools/trunk/spike/ which is where we keep
>>>>> works in progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jody
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Andreas Schmitz<schmitz at lat-lon.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thought a log of the IRC session might be useful:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://web.lat-lon.de/~schmitz/logs/osgeom_2009-07-08.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards, Andreas
>>>>>> --
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