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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Amit,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for clarifying. Our team is working diligently to transition all of our Landsat 8 image services off the landsat-pds bucket and onto the USGS bucket. I just wanted to clarify the note from Joe in order to determine whether or not
this provided a potential contingency plan.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The daily updates, in order to have the latest available Landsat 8 imagery, is one of the key requirements for users of the services we host. Without daily updates, having extended access to landsat-pds is of less value for us. Hopefully
this is a non-issue for us as I believe we are on target to complete the transition per the original timeline (before July 1<sup>st</sup>).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#1A1A1A">Robert Waterman</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#1A1A1A"> | Product Engineering Lead |
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#253555"><a href="https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/"><span style="color:#253555;text-decoration:none">Living Atlas</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Amit Kapadia <amit@planet.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Waterman <RWaterman@esri.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Flasher, Joe <jflasher@amazon.com>; landsat-pds@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Landsat-pds] USGS Landsat S3 bucket<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Rob,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Currently the plan is to stop updating the landsat-pds bucket at the start of July. Can you expand on your needs regarding this bucket?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Amit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 4:35 PM Robert Waterman <<a href="mailto:RWaterman@esri.com">RWaterman@esri.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Joe,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks for the note. We are in the middle of transitioning our existing Collection 1 Level-1 services to the USGS Collection 2 bucket. Can you (or someone) clarify whether the
current landsat-pds bucket will continue to see daily updates beyond June and until the USGS stops making Collection 1 available, or will updates to the landsat-pds bucket stop in early July when the switch to Requester Pays occurs?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#1A1A1A">Robert Waterman</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#1A1A1A"> | Product Engineering
Lead | </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#253555"><a href="https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#253555;text-decoration:none">Living Atlas</span></a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Flasher, Joe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 14, 2021 8:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:landsat-pds@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">landsat-pds@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Landsat-pds] USGS Landsat S3 bucket<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi all, as we approach July 1st, I wanted to resurface the message I originally posted on 12/11/2020, referencing the deletion of the landsat-pds bucket in favor of the USGS-owned
Landsat data bucket. You can find that message in full at <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/landsat-pds/2020-December/000178.html__;!!CKZwjTOV!gUn4wJ65klfOsgdX1dI2LYYetWckH_3AhF2M7KybdUzg_DodeV5a7rhQfjWW8A$" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/landsat-pds/2020-December/000178.html
[lists.osgeo.org]</a>. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">To recap, since there is now an S3 bucket with Collection 2 data, the full archive and owned directly by USGS, we deprecated the existing landsat-pds bucket with a 6 month timeline. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">To make this a bit ‘softer’ of a deprecation, and to try and minimize the community impact, we will be marking the landsat-pds bucket Requester Pays (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/RequesterPaysBuckets.html__;!!CKZwjTOV!gUn4wJ65klfOsgdX1dI2LYYetWckH_3AhF2M7KybdUzg_DodeV5a7rhvyEg98g$" target="_blank">https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/RequesterPaysBuckets.html
[docs.aws.amazon.com]</a>) in early July. Users need to explicitly pass a Requester Pays flag before they accrue any unexpected charges so rather than suddenly charging people, this will actually just return an error if a user is still using the landsat-pds
bucket. The reasoning for doing this rather than an actual deletion right away is that if users cannot immediately switching over to the USGS-owned bucket, they can accept the data request/egress charges and their code will continue to work. This is just a
stopgap to potentially help some in the community and the landsat-pds bucket is still slated for deletion. If there are any major concerns about this switch to RP as a stopgap, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks all!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Amazon Web Services - Open Data Lead<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/opendata.aws__;!!CKZwjTOV!gUn4wJ65klfOsgdX1dI2LYYetWckH_3AhF2M7KybdUzg_DodeV5a7rhTfKisOQ$" target="_blank">https://opendata.aws [opendata.aws]</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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