[Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Jun 22 12:38:25 PDT 2017


Hello Julien,

For opinions on translation, I defer mostly to people with more 
experience that me. (I'm afraid I only speak English).

Cheers, Cameron.


On 21/6/17 8:00 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:
> Hello Julien.
>
> +1 to wait for transifex translations for new documents or completely 
> rewritten documents.
>
> and focus the efforts of the translators on the files with "not so 
> many changes".
> So that, when moving to transifex the already translated strings, we 
> know are "almost" valid strings.
>
>
> Vicky
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Julien Moquet 
> <moquet.julien at gmail.com <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Cameron,
>
>     Yes, and I made a tweet out of it !
>     Thank you for your help too.
>
>     About the translations, as transifex will arrive soon (thanks to
>     Vicky !), it should be a good idea to wait a bit more, and let
>     them use and practice transifex rather than text on github. Vicky
>     tell me how to add the french translation by myself before.
>     What do you think of ?
>
>     Regards,
>     Julien.
>
>     2017-06-20 22:45 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
>     <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>:
>
>         Hi Julien,
>
>         In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project
>         Overview, pull request is here:
>
>         https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216
>         <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216>
>
>         Thanks for your work.
>
>
>         On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>         Hi Cameron,
>>
>>
>>         >> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is
>>         in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>
>>         Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.
>>
>>
>>         >> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
>>         this weekend, from a readability point of view.
>>
>>         I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
>>         I am about to pull request it.
>>
>>         It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It
>>         wasn't so much work to do.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Julien.
>>
>>         2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
>>         <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>             Hi Julien,
>>
>>             Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who
>>             is in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>
>>             I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
>>             this weekend, from a readability point of view.
>>
>>             Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>>
>>             On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>             Hi Vicky,
>>>
>>>             I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.
>>>
>>>             I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very
>>>             few change : are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's
>>>             reviewer ?
>>>
>>>             Regards,
>>>             Julien.
>>>
>>>             2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet
>>>             <moquet.julien at gmail.com <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>                 Hi Vicky,
>>>
>>>                 I am not in the incubating list as a human being,
>>>                 but metacrs is :
>>>                 http://www.osgeo.org/incubator
>>>
>>>
>>>                 I'll have a look on pgRouting.
>>>
>>>                 Regards,
>>>                 Julien.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>>>                 <vicky at georepublic.de <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>>>
>>>                     Hello Julien,
>>>
>>>                     Now about the documentation
>>>                     I see you've worked on your fork, these are the
>>>                     differences:
>>>                     is that correct?
>>>                     https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master
>>>                     <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>
>>>
>>>                     I dont think you are incubating project (I dont
>>>                     see it in the list of incubating projects), so
>>>                     this might not apply.
>>>
>>>                     .. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
>>>                        :scale: 100 %
>>>                        :alt: OSGeo Project
>>>                        :align: right
>>>                        :target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
>>>                     <http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>
>>>
>>>>>>                     ​But I see you advanced a lot on the
>>>                     documentation 👍​
>>>                     ​You might as well do the PR so that the other
>>>                     members of the team can give you feed back.​
>>>                     ​Vicky.​
>>>                     ​​
>>>                     PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in
>>>                     such a way, to make minimal changes in further
>>>                     releases of OSGeo Live.
>>>                     On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet
>>>                     <moquet.julien at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                         Hi Vicky,
>>>                         My fork is up to date regarding the overview
>>>                         and quickstart:
>>>                         https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
>>>                         <https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc>
>>>                         Before making a pull request, I need to test
>>>                         it over the OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or
>>>                         thursday).
>>>                         Although, as I read the sources.list include
>>>                         in this version, I don't really think the
>>>                         latest proj4 will be used.
>>>                         The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is
>>>                         only the stable 4.8.0-3 proj4 release to be
>>>                         used. See :
>>>                         http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/
>>>                         <http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/>
>>>
>>>                         and
>>>                         https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list
>>>                         <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list>
>>>
>>>                         That's why I finally don't have to change
>>>                         the proj4 release on its overview.
>>>                         I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
>>>                         Regards,
>>>                         Julien.
>>>                         2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>>>                         <vicky at georepublic.de
>>>                         <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>>>
>>>                             Hi Julien, et all
>>>                             Maybe you can help me.
>>>                             It so happened that I sent another mail
>>>                             asking about what version to use, while
>>>                             reviewing today, I saw that I didn't
>>>                             send the mail to proj4.
>>>                             (my mail merge skills are not so good)
>>>                             So, here is the hand made mail:
>>>                             Hi all, With the upcoming OSGeo-Live
>>>                             11.0 reboot, we will be re-inserting
>>>                             each project into the OSGeo-Live
>>>                             baseline once someone from each project
>>>                             has replied to confirm that they have
>>>                             reviewed docs and verified the
>>>                             application works as expected. Can you
>>>                             please:  0. Reply by return email to
>>>                             confirm that you have recieved this
>>>                             email and that you are able to check
>>>                             docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner
>>>                             would be better if you can)  1. Reply to
>>>                             confirm the Project Overview is still
>>>                             accurate, or has been updated, (and
>>>                             version numbers are correct)  2. Reply
>>>                             to confirm you have run a recent
>>>                             OSGeo-Live version (the previous 10.5
>>>                             version is ok), and updated the
>>>                             quickstart where needed.  We understand
>>>                             that version 4.9.2 of proj4 will be
>>>                             installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0 (Version
>>>                             4.9.2 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.)
>>>                             (all in one reply is ok)
>>>                             Full package status can be seen here:
>>>                             https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>>>                             <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>>>                             Key Milestones -------------------
>>>                             18-Jun-2017    All docs reviewed and
>>>                             verified 21-Jun-2017    OSGeo-Live
>>>                             delivered to UAT (final application
>>>                             versions installed - Beta stage)
>>>                             24-Jul-2017    OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>>>                             14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston ... full
>>>                             schedule
>>>                             http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>>                             <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>
>>>
>>>                             On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron
>>>                             Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>                             <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                 Hi Julien,
>>>
>>>                                 Thanks for offering to help with
>>>                                 translations. I'm looping in Niko
>>>                                 and Vicky who are currently
>>>                                 wrestling with trying to get
>>>                                 transifex to work. If you are
>>>                                 familiar with it, you might be able
>>>                                 to help them.
>>>
>>>                                 Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>>                                 On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>>                                 Hi,
>>>>                                 >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has
>>>>                                 been translated into other
>>>>                                 languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>                                 > Agreed that metacrs is probably a
>>>>                                 bit too ..
>>>>                                 I am fully agree too.
>>>>                                 And as OsGeoLive aims to be
>>>>                                 multilanguages, I can help on the
>>>>                                 proj4 French Translation pages.
>>>>                                 Regards,
>>>>                                 2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even
>>>>                                 Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:even.rouault at spatialys.com>>:
>>>>
>>>>                                     On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38
>>>>                                     CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                     > Hi Evan,
>>>>
>>>>                                     >
>>>>
>>>>                                     > Yes, MetaCRS was a project
>>>>                                     gathering all the Proj4
>>>>                                     projects together.
>>>>
>>>>                                     > However, it appears that proj4
>>>>                                     is the only project in that
>>>>                                     grouping
>>>>
>>>>                                     > which is active?
>>>>
>>>>                                     >
>>>>
>>>>                                     > Hence my thoughts are that
>>>>                                     "MetaCRS" should be dropped
>>>>                                     from OSGeo-Live
>>>>
>>>>                                     > as a concept and "Proj4" be
>>>>                                     used instead. It would be ok to
>>>>                                     say "Proj4
>>>>
>>>>                                     > has been translated into other
>>>>                                     languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>
>>>>                                     >
>>>>
>>>>                                     > Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>                                     Regarding what is listed
>>>>                                     currently in metacrs :
>>>>
>>>>                                     - proj4js: no opinion
>>>>
>>>>                                     - cs-map: no-opinion
>>>>
>>>>                                     - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily
>>>>                                     used underneath by GDAL in
>>>>                                     particular, mostly in
>>>>                                     maintaince mode, but can be
>>>>                                     treated as a technical
>>>>                                     dependency that doesn't require
>>>>                                     to be visible from users.
>>>>
>>>>                                     - proj4j: no opinion
>>>>
>>>>                                     - spatialreference.org
>>>>                                     <http://spatialreference.org>:
>>>>                                     not maintained in years.
>>>>                                     http://epsg.io/ would be a
>>>>                                     possible replacement
>>>>
>>>>                                     Agreed that metacrs is probably
>>>>                                     a bit too ... meta for folks
>>>>                                     exploring OSGeo-Live content,
>>>>                                     so it could make sense exposing
>>>>                                     proj.4 as a standalone project.
>>>>
>>>>                                     -- 
>>>>
>>>>                                     Spatialys - Geospatial
>>>>                                     professional services
>>>>
>>>>                                     http://www.spatialys.com
>>>>
>>>                                 -- 
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