Judit,<br>I'm running off to bed now. I like your idea of discussing the build process, I'll add some words to the press release about it in ~ 12 hours, if you don't write it first.<br><br>I want to send out the press release within 24 hours, otherwise we are going to run out of time.<br>
<br>I would like to resolve people's concerns about naming, but I think that needs to be addressed after the press release goes out. (I don't see it as a blocking issue, and not getting started on the next release would become a blocker soon).<br>
<br>I'll send the press release to discuss, and project leaders. Feel free to forward onto others you think should receive it too.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Judit Mays <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mays@lat-lon.de">mays@lat-lon.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">thank you, Alex, for your explanation.<br>
<br>
I especially appreciate the thoughts on getting OSGeo projects to<br>
provide their software as (ubuntu/debian) packages. I see the value for<br>
the GISVM/LiveDVD build process as well as for the project itself.<br>
<br>
May be this should be added to the press release? May be this should<br>
also be discussed in or brought to attention of a broader audience?<br>
Incubation list? OSGeo discuss? (I am unsure, as I am still trying to<br>
get to know the OSGeo way of doing things.)<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Judit<br>
<br>
<br>
Alex Mandel schrieb:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> That might be a good way to go about naming, a best of both worlds.<br>
> That's part of why I suggested this would be release 2.5, saving the 3.0<br>
> goodness or whole numbers for conference releases. .5 could still be a<br>
> major release though as Firefox has proven.<br>
><br>
> I don't think we had decided at all what our release strategy would be.<br>
> Nor am I aware of any formal process to do so. The current suggestion<br>
> for work on the next release comes from my specific needs for the<br>
> conference season. If we wanted to just do a bugfix release that would<br>
> be an option.<br>
><br>
> I've recommended the every 6 months as a way for us to help keep up with<br>
> Ubuntu, which our live demo is based on, and as a way to motivate<br>
> projects to make/maintain packages. Creating packages is one of the side<br>
> goals of this effort specifically because it would make adding it to the<br>
> live-demo a one click operation, and would help a good deal of users out<br>
> there with easier installs. Most of the OSGeo projects release quite<br>
> often, so there's no shortage of major new innovations coming out all<br>
> the time, and that's one of our strongest selling points. I actually see<br>
> projects needing to put less effort into the live demo over time as long<br>
> as they maintain deb/ubuntu packages, in fact they might not have to do<br>
> any additional work at all.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Alex<br>
><br>
> Judit Mays wrote:<br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> I would like to mention the German speaking FOSSGIS conference [1],<br>
>> March 2nd-5th 2010. I assume this might be too soon for the next<br>
>> OSGeo-Disc (version 3.0)?<br>
>><br>
>> I agree with Hamish to first solve the naming problem before a press<br>
>> release. I also favour Cameron's intention to inform people before<br>
>> season vacation.<br>
>><br>
>> When I joined this list in mid year, I thought Arramagong was a cool<br>
>> name for a conference handout in Australia. At that point I didn't know<br>
>> about the GISVM/LiveDVD project's broader approach, and I am still not<br>
>> sure about all aspects to it...<br>
>><br>
>> I thought Arramagong was a release name, like Karmic Koala is for Ubuntu<br>
>> 9.10. And I thought this a perfect idea, to have a release name that<br>
>> suits the conference hosting country so well as does Arramagong.<br>
>><br>
>> May be this might help to find a naming for the future? Even if it was<br>
>> just a misunderstanding on my side, it might be a common<br>
>> misunderstanding? Therefore I would suggest the regular standard name to<br>
>> be fairly "boring" (technical, matter of factly) and add a touch of<br>
>> spices with the yearly conference location giving some local touch.<br>
>> "Gaudi" comes to my mind when thinking of Barcelona, and it would match<br>
>> the next years conference logo as well. But please come up with<br>
>> something else all together if you feel inspired...<br>
>><br>
>> By the way, I seem to miss discussions on the projects contents like:<br>
>> when did you guys talk about and decide that there should be 2 major<br>
>> releases each year? My impression from the mails on this list was a<br>
>> drift towards one major release towards FOSS4G and another minor half a<br>
>> year later. I am wondering where these decisions are made and by whom? I<br>
>> am just interested in the decision process.<br>
>><br>
>> Don't get me wrong. I am not overly interested to have it this way or<br>
>> that. There might be ups and downs for both ways.<br>
>><br>
>> Some downs for two major releases from my perspective are:<br>
>> * it would weaken my splendid idea of a conference-special-spicy-name<br>
>> for the product ;-)<br>
>> * some projects might decide to only update their GISVM/LiveDVD-versions<br>
>> for the annual gathering of tribes (FOSS4G), as the work involved might<br>
>> be too much if you can't find volunteers willing to go through the<br>
>> process twice a year.<br>
>><br>
>> Happy to hear your thoughts,<br>
>> Judit<br>
>><br>
>> [1] the only page I found with at least some English contents:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/wiki/2010/Call_for_Papers" target="_blank">http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/wiki/2010/Call_for_Papers</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cameron Shorter schrieb:<br>
>>> I've put together a draft schedule at:<br>
>>> <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tMRaCwabv7SiIG3moHEfMrQ&hl=en_GB" target="_blank">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tMRaCwabv7SiIG3moHEfMrQ&hl=en_GB</a><br>
>>> And I'm interested to hear feedback on whether people think this is<br>
>>> good. Note: I have 6 weeks factored in from Feature Freeze to Final<br>
>>> Release, to allow for testing.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Alex, I'm interested to know the dates up the upcoming conferences so<br>
>>> that we can ensure we have the 3.0 DVD ready in time for it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I also have a draft press release which I think we should send out in a<br>
>>> couple of days calling on projects to contribute toward the Live DVD.<br>
>>> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_1" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_1</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Again, looking for feedback on this too.<br>
>>><br>
<br>
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