Thank you, Astrid! Very good idea.<div>I added "LiveDVD" to the Code Sprint wiki page: <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Code_Sprint#LiveDVD">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Code_Sprint#LiveDVD</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/1 Astrid Emde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello,<br>
<br>
I wrote a mail to the german lists fossgis-talk and fossgis-verein to ask<br>
people what they think about getting the german version ready for INTERGEO<br>
2010.<br>
<br>
Here is the link:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lists.fossgis.de/pipermail/fossgis-talk-liste/2010-August/001919.html" target="_blank">https://lists.fossgis.de/pipermail/fossgis-talk-liste/2010-August/001919.html</a><br>
<br>
Let's wait for some feedback.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Astrid<br>
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On Mon, August 30, 2010 10:58 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> I love that people are suggesting translating OSGeo-Live documentation,<br>
> and I actually think it is achievable for Intergeo if you have a couple of<br>
> dedicated translators.<br>
><br>
> Talking about schedule:<br>
> Our driver for creating the latest English documentation will always be<br>
> the FOSS4G conference, and based on human tendencies we will always be<br>
> getting our English documentation at the last minute before printing,<br>
> without time for translation for foss4g. (This will be the case for the<br>
> 2011 FOSS4G, being in the English speaking USA.)<br>
><br>
><br>
> Once we have the FOSS4G version cut (around 4 weeks before foss4g), we<br>
> can then hand the documentation over to translators.<br>
><br>
> There are 43 projects, each having a 1to 2 page project overview, plus<br>
> 15 or so standard overviews. Maybe 100 pages in total, 60 pages if just<br>
> translating the project overviews.<br>
><br>
> If very keen, translators can also take on the quickstarts, but that<br>
> will be much more work.<br>
><br>
> The good thing about the documentation is that we can run the<br>
> documentation install script by itself, applied to a prior release, in<br>
> order to update just the translated documentation.<br>
><br>
> So for the 4.0 release, if we can find someone to translate ~ 60 project<br>
> overviews to German in the next 4 weeks, then we could create a 4.0_german<br>
> release before Integeo.<br>
><br>
> On 31/08/10 02:46, Astrid Emde wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello Daniel,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 4:36 pm, Daniel Kastl wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Hi Astrid,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I agree that the Geoserver directory structure as Jody proposed<br>
>>> should work well.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In my opinion it would be worth to try to translate at least the<br>
>>> basic documentation. If a few people do this together it shouldn't<br>
>>> take too much time. Does the LiveDVD for Intergeo have any fix<br>
>>> deadline?<br>
>>><br>
>> The Intergeo will be 5.-7. October 2010<br>
>> (<a href="http://www.intergeo.de/de/deutsch/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.intergeo.de/de/deutsch/index.php</a>)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> So it would be quite sportiv to get the german version till then. I<br>
>> think we are fine for this year to provide the english version.<br>
>><br>
>> There is still the job to do to get some hundred dvd printed and so on.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> There will be a presentation part on Intergeo where we could present<br>
>> the project and show the slides from Cameron. There is not so much text<br>
>> and the presentation could be in german<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Personally I<br>
>>> will spend this week plenty of hours in the airplane from Osaka via<br>
>>> Bangkok to Munich and could start already with translating. Except<br>
>>> you say it's definitely too late for this year already.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Daniel<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>> I would guess it is already too late. But maybe Cameron and the<br>
>> packaging team have to decide this.<br>
>><br>
>> Anyway you already could do the translations for the next version.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Have a good flight.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Astrid<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> 2010/8/30 Astrid Emde<<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> it would be great if we could provide the LiveDVD in different<br>
>>>> languages. We plan to take the LiveDVD to the Intergeo which is a<br>
>>>> big fair but mostly with german speaking visitors. It won't work out<br>
>>>> to get a german version for 2010, but maybe we can provide it for<br>
>>>> next year.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Maybe most documents could be translated from people from the<br>
>>>> projects themselves (this would be possible at least for german).<br>
>>>> For german<br>
>>>> translations I also can ask people from the FOSSGIS e.V. (german<br>
>>>> speaking local chapter of the OSGeo).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I agree with the data structure Jody suggested.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Astrid<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 1:15 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> For geoserver we ended up with duplicating the docs in different<br>
>>>>> svn trees (using the iso language name as the directory):<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> You can see the result here:<br>
>>>>> - <a href="http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/en/" target="_blank">http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/en/</a><br>
>>>>> - <a href="http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/es/" target="_blank">http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/es/</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Jody<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Daniel Kastl<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:daniel.kastl@georepublic.de">daniel.kastl@georepublic.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I agree with many of the goals. It's long been on my list to<br>
>>>>>>> get the language switcher like the normal ubuntu disk has<br>
>>>>>>> right at boot.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> You can easily switch the default language and keyboard<br>
>>>>>>> setting by hand right before building the iso.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Now that we have rst based docs<br>
>>>>>>> +1 on translating the docs (the how to change<br>
>>>>>>> language/keyboard would be the best one to start with) +1 on<br>
>>>>>>> translating menus if they need it (note the ubuntu menus<br>
>>>>>>> already are translated for the most part) - Encouraging the<br>
>>>>>>> translation of OSGeo apps to the same list of<br>
>>>>>>> languages (list might need some adjustment) we've included. +1<br>
>>>>>>> translating cover<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Sorry I won't be there in Barcelona but don't let that stop<br>
>>>>>>> you from talking about it.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>> Alex<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi Alex,<br>
>>>>>> I agree. The main work would be translating.<br>
>>>>>> Unfortunately Sphinx doesn't support multilingual documents. I<br>
>>>>>> looked for this a few weeks ago already. So probably at first we<br>
>>>>>> need to agree on some guideline and naming convention for<br>
>>>>>> localized documentation, and we could think about how to inform<br>
>>>>>> translators about changes and updates of the original files. The<br>
>>>>>> latter is a common problem of translated documents. Daniel<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Georepublic UG& Georepublic Japan<br>
>>>>>> eMail: <a href="mailto:daniel.kastl@georepublic.de">daniel.kastl@georepublic.de</a><br>
>>>>>> Web: <a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">http://georepublic.de</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>> Live-demo mailing list<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo</a><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> Live-demo mailing list<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Astrid Emde<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Georepublic UG& Georepublic Japan<br>
>>> eMail: <a href="mailto:daniel.kastl@georepublic.de">daniel.kastl@georepublic.de</a><br>
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>>> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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<br>
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