Hi Cameron,<div><br></div><div>I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.</div><div><br></div><div>The install script for OTB will be very simple I think :</div><div><br></div><div><div class="verbatim" id="verbatim-1" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size: medium; ">
<i>sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository <br>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable</i></div><div class="verbatim" id="verbatim-1" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size: medium; ">
<i>sudo aptitude update </i></div><div class="verbatim" id="verbatim-2" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size: medium; "><i>sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi</i></div>
<div class="verbatim" id="verbatim-2" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size: medium; "><i><br></i></div><div class="verbatim" id="verbatim-2" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both; font-size: medium; ">
I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div>Manuel</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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Thank you Manual for these clarifications.<br>
<br>
I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including OTB on
OSGeo-Live.<br>
Assuming that there are no other questions or objections from our
community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB as per: <br><div class="im">
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br></div>
If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to have
install script and Overview and Quickstart text complete by 31
January.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">I
answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use
rather<br>
than libraries that are included into other applications. Does
ORFEO<br>
Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
interface) that a<br>
user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">->Yes
the software Monteverdi based on OTB </span><span style="font-family:verdana,'Lucida Grande',arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(17, 17, 17);line-height:19px">provide a user interface and an
architecture which allows building processing chains by
selecting modules from a set of menus. It supports raster and
vector dataThe architecture takes advantage of the streaming
and multi-threading capabilities of the OTB pipeline. It also
uses cool features as processing on demand and automagic file
format I/O. The application is called Monteverdi, since this
is the name of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" target="_blank">Orfeo
composer</a>.</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> The application is also packaged
on Ubuntu, you can find more informations here : </span><a href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html" target="_blank">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
<div>Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
(command line interface) which are also accessible through user
interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins) </div>
<div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">2.
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Can
ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">->Yes, we
already provide in the past Live OTB which works on this type
of platforms. The application monteverdi was developped in the
frame of capacity building activities and it works on PC
with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of RAM is enough to
run the application and do basic processing). <br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">How
much disk space will be required to install ORFEO Toolbox and
a</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">suitable
example application.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> otb package
10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">What
datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you make
use of</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you need
something</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">else?</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> I do not
know this dataset, I think that we can use this dataset. We
provide also on our repository extract of remote sensing data
which are used as examples in the software guide and in the
OTB tutorial. <a href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/" target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Our
documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
examples and results) are automatically generated each time
when we update the software guide to ensure that results which
appear in the documentation are results provided by the
library.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">We
can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want which
will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the Live DVD?<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">3.
You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't see
ORFEO</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">listed
at</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://osgeo.org" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">. Have you
started incubation, or are you on</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> Sorry, I
only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start the
incubation process for now...<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">4.
Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you have a
bug</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">free,
stable release, which has been rolled out to production in a</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">number
of locations?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> The last
OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest stable
release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a platform of
automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and cdash). The library
is continuously and intensively tests on numerous platforms.
There are more than 1500 tests currently in the library...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB" target="_blank">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">5.
I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI list
of</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">licences.
Has license been discussed and resolved on the</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">OSGeo-Incubation
list?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> I am not
aware of any discussions about the licence, Cecill is a free
software license (adapted to french legal matter) compatible
with GPL : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">6.
Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to volunteer
to be</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility for
liaising</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">between
the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that scripts and</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">documentation
are updated for each release.</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">->
No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is also
an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Regards,</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Manuel<br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Hi Johan,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that's some words in your answers are
missing... "it is already packaged and...???"</div>
</span><br>
</div>
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<div>2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com" target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Since
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel
Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
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<div>
<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The
toolbox (and also related projects) are
also provided as binary packages for
Windows, Mac and recently also on Linux
Platforms. An OTB repository is
available on <a href="http://launchpad.net" target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for
Ubuntu platforms (9.10,10.4,10.10) and
also for OpenSuse platforms. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>it is already packaged and </div>
<div>
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<div>
<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">OTB
is under incubation for OSGeo Project. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>I think it would be a very good idea to
include OTB on the live disk.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<br>
-- <br>
<font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
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-- <br>
Manuel<br>
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