<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB project in the frame of the next release of OSGeo live.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to push the file (my OSGeo login is 'manuelgrizonnet'). </div><div><br></div><div>However, you can find the first version of the documentation with also related logo/images here : <a href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Manuel</div><div><br></div></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span><br>
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Thanks Manuel,<br>
I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to "otb".<br>
<br>
This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for your
install script and documentation, and our status spreadsheets. We
use a bit of excel magic to work out status of docs and translations
based upon this name.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The install script for OTB will be very simple I think :</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:nowrap;text-align:left;clear:both;font-size:medium">
<i>sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository <br>
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable</i></div>
<div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:nowrap;text-align:left;clear:both;font-size:medium">
<i>sudo aptitude update </i></div>
<div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:nowrap;text-align:left;clear:both;font-size:medium"><i>sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi</i></div>
<div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:nowrap;text-align:left;clear:both;font-size:medium"><i><br>
</i></div>
<div style="font-family:monospace;white-space:nowrap;text-align:left;clear:both;font-size:medium">
I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script
soon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Manuel</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thank you Manual for
these clarifications.<br>
<br>
I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for
including OTB on OSGeo-Live.<br>
Assuming that there are no other questions or objections
from our community, I'd encourage you to start packaging
OTB as per: <br>
<div> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
</div>
If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim
to have install script and Overview and Quickstart text
complete by 31 January.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote: </div>
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<div>
<div>Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">I
answer below to questions about OTB before
moving forward:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that
people can use rather<br>
than libraries that are included into other
applications. Does ORFEO<br>
Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command
line interface) that a<br>
user can interact with and try out ORFEO
Toolbox?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">->Yes
the software Monteverdi based on OTB </span><span style="font-family:verdana,'Lucida Grande',arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(17, 17, 17);line-height:19px">provide
a user interface and an architecture which
allows building processing chains by selecting
modules from a set of menus. It supports raster
and vector dataThe architecture takes advantage
of the streaming and multi-threading
capabilities of the OTB pipeline. It also uses
cool features as processing on demand and
automagic file format I/O. The application is
called Monteverdi, since this is the name of
the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" target="_blank">Orfeo composer</a>.</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> The
application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can
find more informations here : </span><a href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html" target="_blank">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
<div>Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB
processing chain (command line interface) which
are also accessible through user interface
(standalone qt application or qgis plugins) </div>
<div> <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">2.
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Can
ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">->Yes, we
already provide in the past Live OTB which works
on this type of platforms. The application
monteverdi was developped in the frame of
capacity building activities and it works on PC
with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of RAM
is enough to run the application and do basic
processing). <br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">How
much disk space will be required to install
ORFEO Toolbox and a</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">suitable
example application.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> otb
package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app
15 Mo<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">What
datasets would be required for a demonstration?
Can you make use of</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
naturalearth dataset already installed, or would
you need something</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">else?</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> I do not
know this dataset, I think that we can use this
dataset. We provide also on our repository
extract of remote sensing data which are used as
examples in the software guide and in the OTB
tutorial. <a href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/" target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Our
documentation (description of algorithms, input
images, examples and results) are automatically
generated each time when we update the software
guide to ensure that results which appear in the
documentation are results provided by the
library.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">We
can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you
want which will give an overview of OTB
functionnalities on the Live DVD?<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">3.
You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I
can't see ORFEO</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">listed
at</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://osgeo.org" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204)" target="_blank">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">. Have you
started incubation, or are you on</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> Sorry, I
only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start
the incubation process for now...<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">4.
Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live.
Do you have a bug</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">free,
stable release, which has been rolled out to
production in a</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">number
of locations?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> The last
OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the
latest stable release. OTB validation is mainly
driven by a platform of automatic tests (based
on cmake, ctest and cdash). The library is
continuously and intensively tests on numerous
platforms. There are more than 1500 tests
currently in the library...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><a href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB" target="_blank">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">5.
I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not
listed on OSI list of</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">licences.
Has license been discussed and resolved on the</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">OSGeo-Incubation
list?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">-> I am not
aware of any discussions about the licence,
Cecill is a free software license (adapted to
french legal matter) compatible with GPL : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">6.
Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared
to volunteer to be</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">the
OSGeo-Live representative, who will take
responsibility for liaising</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">between
the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that
scripts and</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">documentation
are updated for each release.</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">-> No
problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB.
There is also an OTB packages team on
launchpad with contacts : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Regards,</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Manuel<br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11 Manuel
Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Hi Johan,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that's some words in your
answers are missing... "it is already
packaged and...???"</div>
</span><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com" target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div>
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<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38
AM, Manuel Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
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<div>
<p><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif">The
toolbox (and also related
projects) are also
provided as binary
packages for Windows, Mac
and recently also on Linux
Platforms. An OTB
repository is available on
<a href="http://launchpad.net" target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for Ubuntu
platforms
(9.10,10.4,10.10) and also
for OpenSuse platforms. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>it is already packaged and </div>
<div>
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<div>
<p><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif">OTB
is under incubation for
OSGeo Project. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>I think it would be a very good
idea to include OTB on the live
disk.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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-- <br>
<font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
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-- <br>
Manuel<br>
</div>
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Director
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a href="http://www.lisasoft.com" target="_blank">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>
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