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Hi Manuel,<br>
I understand that Alex has set you up with svn access.<br>
Could you please add yourself to the OSGeo-Live contributors list so
that we can credit you appropriately, and also so that you can check
your subversion access works.<br>
<br>
Details here:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Subversion">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Subversion</a><br>
<br>
On 21/01/11 06:33, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
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Hi Manuel.<br>
<br>
The files are committed in svn now.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=KhFRDTkW_VFm63xYKTbitEW9xnLOJXwp-GL1m@mail.gmail.com"
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB
project in the frame of the next release of OSGeo live.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to
push the file (my OSGeo login is 'manuelgrizonnet'). </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, you can find the first version of the
documentation with also related logo/images here : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Manuel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com">cameron.shorter@lisasoft.com</a>></span><br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks Manuel,<br>
I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to
"otb".<br>
<br>
This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use
for your install script and documentation, and our status
spreadsheets. We use a bit of excel magic to work out
status of docs and translations based upon this name.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I addes an entry in the #Status document about
orfeo toolbox.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The install script for OTB will be very simple
I think :</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both;
font-size: medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
<br>
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both;
font-size: medium;"> <i>sudo aptitude update </i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both;
font-size: medium;"><i>sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both;
font-size: medium;"><i><br>
</i></div>
<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space:
nowrap; text-align: left; clear: both;
font-size: medium;"> I'll send a script for
orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Manuel</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Thank
you Manual for these clarifications.<br>
<br>
I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm
+1 for including OTB on OSGeo-Live.<br>
Assuming that there are no other questions
or objections from our community, I'd
encourage you to start packaging OTB as per:
<br>
<div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
</div>
If you wish to make the next release, can
you please aim to have install script and
Overview and Quickstart text complete by 31
January.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
wrote: </div>
</div>
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<div>
<div>Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">I
answer below to questions about
OTB before moving forward:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at
applications that people can use
rather<br>
than libraries that are included
into other applications. Does
ORFEO<br>
Toolbox have a user interface
(possibly command line interface)
that a<br>
user can interact with and try out
ORFEO Toolbox?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes
the software Monteverdi based on
OTB </span><span style="color:
rgb(17, 17, 17); line-height:
19px;">provide a user interface
and an architecture which allows
building processing chains by
selecting modules from a set of
menus. It supports raster and
vector dataThe architecture takes
advantage of the streaming and
multi-threading capabilities of
the OTB pipeline. It also uses
cool features as processing on
demand and automagic file format
I/O. The application is called
Monteverdi, since this is the name
of the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi"
style="margin: 0px; padding:
0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"
target="_blank">Orfeo composer</a>.</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> The
application is also packaged on
Ubuntu, you can find more
informations here : </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html"
target="_blank">http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html</a></div>
<div>Moreover the otb-app package
provides OTB processing chain
(command line interface) which are
also accessible through user
interface (standalone qt application
or qgis plugins) </div>
<div> <span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">2.
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk
constrained.</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">Can
ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or
RAM?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->Yes,
we already provide in the past
Live OTB which works on this type
of platforms. The application
monteverdi was developped in the
frame of capacity building
activities and it works on PC
with memory and disk constrained
(512 Mo of RAM is enough to run
the application and do basic
processing). <br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">How
much disk space will be required
to install ORFEO Toolbox and a</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">suitable
example application.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi
package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">What
datasets would be required for a
demonstration? Can you make use of</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
naturalearth dataset already
installed, or would you need
something</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">else?</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
I do not know this dataset, I
think that we can use this
dataset. We provide also on our
repository extract of remote
sensing data which are used as
examples in the software guide and
in the OTB tutorial. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/"
target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">Our
documentation (description of
algorithms, input images, examples
and results) are automatically
generated each time when we update
the software guide to ensure that
results which appear in the
documentation are results provided
by the library.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">We can
pointed out interesting "Toy
example" if you want which will
give an overview of OTB
functionnalities on the Live DVD?<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">3. You
mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo
incubation. I can't see ORFEO</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">listed
at</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osgeo.org"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);"
target="_blank">http://osgeo.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"> </span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">. Have
you started incubation, or are you
on</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
waiting list to start incubation?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
Sorry, I only open a ticket on the
OSGeo website to start the
incubation process for now...<br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">4.
Stability is very important to us
on OSGeo-Live. Do you have a bug</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">free,
stable release, which has been
rolled out to production in a</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">number
of locations?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
The last OTB release 3.8.0 and
monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest
stable release. OTB validation is
mainly driven by a platform of
automatic tests (based on cmake,
ctest and cdash). The library is
continuously and intensively tests
on numerous platforms. There are
more than 1500 tests currently in
the library...</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB"
target="_blank">http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">5. I
notice the CeCILL licence you use
is not listed on OSI list of</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">licences.
Has license been discussed and
resolved on the</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">OSGeo-Incubation
list?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"></span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">->
I am not aware of any discussions
about the licence, Cecill is a
free software license (adapted to
french legal matter) compatible
with GPL : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL</a><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">6. Do
you have a person (maybe
yourself?) prepared to volunteer
to be</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">the
OSGeo-Live representative, who
will take responsibility for
liaising</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">between
the project and OSGeo-Live and
make sure that scripts and</span><span
style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;
border-collapse: collapse;">documentation
are updated for each release.</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;">-> No problem for
liaising between OSGeo and OTB.
There is also an OTB packages
team on launchpad with contacts
: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb"
target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb</a></span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;">Regards,</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="border-collapse:
collapse;">Manuel<br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/11
Manuel Grizonnet <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com"
target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size:
13px; border-collapse:
collapse;">Hi Johan,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think that's some
words in your answers are
missing... "it is already
packaged and...???"</div>
</span><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>2011/1/11 Johan Van de
Wauw <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johan.vandewauw@gmail.com"
target="_blank">johan.vandewauw@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
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solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> Since
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 11,
2011 at 11:38 AM,
Manuel Grizonnet <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com" target="_blank">manuel.grizonnet@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
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style="margin: 0pt
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1ex;">
<div>
<p><font
face="arial,
helvetica,
sans-serif">The
toolbox (and
also related
projects) are
also provided
as binary
packages for
Windows, Mac
and recently
also on Linux
Platforms. An
OTB repository
is available
on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://launchpad.net" target="_blank">launchpad.net</a> for Ubuntu
platforms
(9.10,10.4,10.10)
and also for
OpenSuse
platforms. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>it is already
packaged and </div>
<div>
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class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt
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1ex;">
<div>
<p><font
face="arial,
helvetica,
sans-serif">OTB
is
under incubation
for OSGeo
Project. </font></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>I think it would
be a very good idea
to include OTB on
the live disk.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
<font color="#888888">Manuel<br>
</font></blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
Manuel<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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-- <br>
Manuel<br>
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</blockquote>
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<pre cols="72">--
Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Director
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
Think Globally, Fix Locally
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