Hi,<br><br>I understand that you can be reluctant to change the default gdal package in the install script of osgeo live. Hope we can find a resolution before the 5.0 release. <br>For your information the guys from qgis on the listcan confirm, but I think that the problem also appears in Quantum GIS 1.7 : <a href="http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3830#note-2">http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3830#note-2</a><br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Manuel<br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/27 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maplabs@light42.com">maplabs@light42.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<p>Hi -</p><p><br></p><p> two thoughts:</p><p><br></p><p>* GDAL users
certainly outnumber OTB users, both humans and applications, so a custom patch
to GDAL .deb to support OTB does not sound good</p><p><br></p><p>* However, I a
suspicious that the GDAL .deb has so much trouble with external TIFF.. maybe
there is a flaw in the way they are packaging
GDAL.. </p><p><br></p><p> I am not at all ready to try to change the
GDAL package, but I am one of the people doing maintenance on the OSGeo-Live
install scripts.. Thanks for bringing this issue up early.. OTB is a great
addition to the LiveDVD and we *do* want to find a resolution -
IMO</p><p><br></p><p> best regards from Berkeley, California</p><p>
-Brian</p><p><br></p><p></p><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:31:52 +0200, Julien
Malik <u></u> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left:2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px"><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>
Hello,<br>
<br>
One important point for OTB on OSGeoLive :<br>
<br>
We hit a wall with the gdal 1.8 package provided in
ubuntugis-unstable repository : it breaks TIFF support for
applications linking to both gdal and tiff, which is the case for
OTB, making the OTB packages pretty much useless.<br>
<br>
This issue has been discussed on gdal-dev ML.<br>
The debian packager of gdal is working on a solution to this known
problem, but it is not yet out.<br>
The solution we chose for the OTB debian package is to patch the
gdal source package, and provide a patched binary package on the
orfeotoolbox-nightly PPA (here : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb/+archive/orfeotoolbox-nightly" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb/+archive/orfeotoolbox-nightly</a>).<br>
For those interested, the patch is here :
<a href="http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-DevUtils/file/tip/Packaging/ubuntu/gdal/do_not_disable_GTIFF_for_otb" target="_blank">http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-DevUtils/file/tip/Packaging/ubuntu/gdal/do_not_disable_GTIFF_for_otb</a><br>
<br>
It is harmless : it's only aim is to recover the behavior of gdal
< 1.8, where the TIFF driver was still registered, even in case
of conflicts with the gdal internal Tiff version.<br>
<br>
When the release will be out in a few days, we will copy this binary
over to the orfeotoolbox-stable-ubuntugis PPA, which is used during
the OSGeo Live installation procedure.<br>
In particular, it will spread out as the default gdal on the OSGeo
Live CD.<br>
I don't like it a lot, but we don't have a better solution coming to
mind.<br>
Meanwhile, I'm confident about the fact that the patch has no
functionnal impact on gdal.<br>
<br>
What is your opinion ?<br>
<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
Le 27/06/2011 09:03, Manuel Grizonnet a écrit :
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>concerning otb, the library is in the release candidate
process. The release 3.10 is planned for the 06/30. I hope that
Ubuntu Natty packages will be available just after that
(orfeotoolbox-nightly packages already work on Natty : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb/+archive/orfeotoolbox-nightly" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~otb/+archive/orfeotoolbox-nightly</a>).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'll send more informations at the end of the week.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
Manuel</div>
<u></u>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
2011/6/26 Hamish <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com" target="_blank">hamish_b@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Alex wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://live.osgeo.org/dev/build/5alpha2-log.tar.gz" target="_blank">http://live.osgeo.org/dev/build/5alpha2-log.tar.gz</a><br>
><br>
> Went a little better than last time. I had to
manually<br>
> interrupt and restart it (though not clean) somewhere
towards<br>
> the end of Java stuff.<br>
<br>
</div>
thanks,<br>
<br>
> Opps sorry I didn't up the version on the alpha build
(I<br>
> always forget that each new cycle).<br>
<br>
semi-bumped now. a build-checklist.txt in svn might help ..<br>
<div><br>
> If the logs look decent after a day I'll go ahead and
pack<br>
> a vm for people to download to make future testing of
scripts<br>
> easier on the 5.0 version.<br>
<br>
</div>
still propagating packaging errors in this one leaving the<br>
system in a broken state...<br>
<br>
<br>
5.0a2 quick build log review:<br>
<br>
everyone:<br>
${CURLY} brackets do nothing to protect the command line
from<br>
spaces and special chars within variables. Use "double
quotes"<br>
for that.<br>
<br>
<br>
geoserver:<br>
FIXME: 'export FOO=bar' is a Bashism and will not work with
Ubuntu's #!/bin/sh (which is dash)<br>
<br>
geomajas:<br>
GeoMajas FIXME: Do not use 777 if at all possible.<br>
<br>
geonetwork:<br>
any way to make your 250mb package smaller?<br>
<br>
deegree, openjump, maptiler:<br>
FIXME: don't use wget for local files, just copy from local
svn checkout: cp ../app-conf/$FILE $DEST<br>
<br>
gvSIG:<br>
> mv: cannot stat `gvSIG19_new_features.tar.gz': No such
file or directory<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
osm:<br>
temporary DNS trouble, now fixed?<br>
Static copy of Denver.osm.bz2 now stashed on OSGeo download
server, note<br>
many times bigger than Barcelona, which may make the PostGIS
DB<br>
huge?<br>
<br>
Sahaha:<br>
a number of errors, e.g.:<br>
> DataError: value too long for type character
varying(64)<br>
> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'applications/eden/compiled'<br>
<br>
Ushahidi:<br>
> ... Ushahidi already downloaded<br>
> tar: A lone zero block at 17095<br>
<br>
(probably want to do a timestamp check with the wget, but -N
and -O are<br>
mutually exclusive)<br>
<br>
> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user
'root'@'localhost'<br>
<br>
there is no root password. try operating as another user
name.<br>
?<br>
<br>
geopublisher, atlasstyler:<br>
> E: Package 'geopublishing-doc' has no installation
candidate<br>
<br>
mapfish:<br>
> Download error: [Errno -2] Name or service not known --
Some packages may not be found!<br>
?<br>
script is very verbose, making it hard to pick out real
error<br>
messages.<br>
<br>
mapguide:<br>
.debs need to be updated for Ubuntu 11.04, ie to not depend
on odbcinst1debian1<br>
Uses a disproportionate amount of disc space (>375mb).
please<br>
find ways to slim it down.<br>
<br>
[after this all other deb installs are broken for the rest
of the ISO build..]<br>
<br>
ossim:<br>
wants libgdal1-1.7.0, but only 1.6.0 and 1.8.0 are
available.<br>
-> rebuild for natty<br>
WARNING: wget -N timestamping does nothing in combination
with -O.<br>
<br>
52nSOS:<br>
please shut off pgsql verbose mode & fix errors, if
possible.<br>
<br>
otb:<br>
fails-- no packages for ubuntu/natty found in PPA.<br>
<br>
[after this even less of the apt system works...]<br>
<br>
<br>
disc space:<br>
can we safely uninstall linux-headers-2.6.38-8? (81.5mb)<br>
+ linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic (10mb)<br>
(is building the proprietary nvidia driver a critical need?)<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Hamish<br>
</font>
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