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Frank, Cameron-<br>
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while I appreciate the idea of homogenization, to me it seems more
natural to keep references to the standards: if I read a linked "OGC
WCS" I'd expect a link to OGC WCS. The OSGeo description page is a
paraphrasing of the standards texts, but not authoritative.<br>
<br>
my 2 cents,<br>
Peter<br>
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On 08/02/2011 12:38 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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Frank,<br>
I suspect these proposals are a good idea, but as yet I'm unclear
about what we gain by changing the way to use hyperlinks.<br>
<br>
I'd really like to revisit your suggestions as we move into the
next release, but as we are getting close to this release, and as
translators are working like mad translating the English docs, we
should be doing our best to keep the English docs as static as
possible, and only change the English docs if we find something
wrong.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 01/08/11 22:25, Frank Gasdorf wrote:
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cite="mid:CAEVXr3F-5unDt3n7MLYxf-dpB_AKYfxRc8u12F9B4Uc2zD4nEQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">@Cameron, this step will help us <span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/harmonize.html"
style="color: black; text-decoration: none;">harmonize</a> the
cross references to the standard overview documents. </span>
<div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Today
(revision 6683 : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/6683">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/6683</a>) I
updated geoserver_overview and there you can see
the :doc: directives (in Implemented Standards section)
which uses the headline from the overview page itself. </span>
<div> <font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">:doc:`<../standards/wms_overview>`
and</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">:doc:`Web Map Service
(WMS) <../standards/wms_overview>` </span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">will result into <a
href="">Web Map Standard (WMS)</a></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">In my opinion we
should update it to :doc: instead of relative links with
html string in it like to one of the two mentioned
above:</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">`Web Map Service (WMS)
<../standards/wms_overview.html>`_</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">We should also grep in
all rst file (except the on in standards sub folder) for
links to the opengeospatial standards links like : </span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wms">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wms</a></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wfs">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wfs</a>
and so on</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">and replace these with
a OSGeo standard overview page link (</span></font><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">:doc:`Web Map Service (WMS)
<../standards/wms_overview>`)</span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">. All </span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">abbreviation
without a link could be update too.</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">If you need any help
to update the rst docs let me know....</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">A second enhancement
from my point of view: Add a link from each standard
page to the standards (overview) page to get an overview
and a context for the user. Would you agree?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">Cheers, Frank</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br>
</span></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> 2011/8/1 Cameron Shorter <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> Byron Cochrane has been building a
valuable cross reference, listing servers and clients to
the common OGC standards. I've copied it into the
spreadsheet at [1], and intend to copy into a table in
the OSGeo-Live docs, inside our section on standards.<br>
<br>
Could all projects please have a look, and correct any
mistakes in the spreadsheet.<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10"
target="_blank">https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=10</a><br>
<br>
I'll copy the contents from the online spreadsheet into
subversion in a couple of days, on 3 August 2011.<br>
<br>
Below is a copy from the spreadsheet into email ...<br>
<br>
Web Services:<br>
============<br>
<br>
52nSOS SOS<br>
52nWPS WPS<br>
52nWSS<br>
atlasstyler<br>
deegree WMS WFS WCS CSW WPS SOS<br>
gdal<br>
geokettle<br>
geomajas<br>
geomoose<br>
geonetwork WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
geopublisher<br>
geoserver WMS WFS WCS<br>
gmt<br>
gpsdrive<br>
grass<br>
gvsig<br>
kosmo<br>
libLAS<br>
mapbender<br>
mapfish<br>
mapguide WMS WFS<br>
mapnik<br>
mapproxy WMS WMTS<br>
mapserver WMS WFS WCS<br>
maptiler<br>
marble<br>
mb-system<br>
openjump<br>
openlayers<br>
opencpn<br>
optics<br>
osm<br>
osgearth<br>
ossim<br>
otb<br>
pgrouting<br>
postgis<br>
prune<br>
qgis<br>
qgis_mapserver WMS<br>
R<br>
rasdaman WCS WPS<br>
saga<br>
sahana<br>
spatialite<br>
tinyows WFS<br>
udig<br>
ushahidi<br>
viking<br>
zygrib<br>
zoo-project WPS<br>
<br>
<br>
======================================<br>
<br>
Web Clients:<br>
==========<br>
52nSOS<br>
52nWPS<br>
52nWSS<br>
atlasstyler<br>
deegree WMS WFS WCS<br>
gdal<br>
geokettle WFS CSW SOS<br>
geomajas WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
geomoose WMS<br>
geonetwork WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
geopublisher<br>
geoserver<br>
gmt<br>
gpsdrive<br>
grass<br>
gvsig WMS WFS WCS CSW<br>
kosmo WMS WFS<br>
libLAS<br>
mapbender WMS WFS<br>
mapfish WMS WFS<br>
mapguide WMS WFS<br>
mapnik<br>
mapproxy<br>
mapserver WMS WFS<br>
maptiler<br>
marble<br>
mb-system<br>
openjump WMS WFS<br>
openlayers WMS WFS WMTS<br>
opencpn<br>
optics<br>
osm<br>
osgearth<br>
ossim<br>
otb<br>
pgrouting<br>
postgis<br>
prune<br>
qgis WMS WFS<br>
qgis_mapserver<br>
R<br>
rasdaman<br>
saga<br>
sahana<br>
spatialite<br>
tinyows<br>
udig WMS WFS<br>
ushahidi<br>
viking<br>
zygrib<br>
zoo-project<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Cameron Shorter<br>
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