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Andre, Even, Jody,<br>
Thank you for your insights.<br>
Based on your advice, it sounds like it will be unwise to try to
migrate all java based OSGeo applications to OpenJDK by our
OSGeo-Live5.5 release due in March 2012.<br>
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As such, I propose that Sun Java be included on OSGeo-Live5.5.<br>
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I'm hopeful that we can find enough space to include OpenJDK,
(ideally version 7) on this and future OSGeo-Live releases, and
start moving all applications across to OpenJDK as soon as they are
available. This will mean that the OSGeo-Live community can be drawn
upon to help with testing which hopefully can be seen as a positive
for java projects.<br>
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Does this sound reasonable?<br>
<br>
Alex, it would be great if you could start the build process so that
we can determine whether we can find sufficient space to include 2
versions of java on OSGeo-Live.<br>
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On 03/01/12 13:29, Jody Garnett wrote:
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<div>Questions for Geotools developers:<br>
1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now?<br>
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<div>Not sure; even if they did without a build box configured
with OpenJDK to ensure the library works in that environment it
would not be considered a supported platform for production use.
I always figure "demo" is almost more important then production
use as it is a first impression.</div>
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<div>By the same token I would not recommend projects based on
GeoTools go live on OpenJDK without appropriate testing.</div>
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<div>Perhaps the Geomajas guys could stand up a build box with
OpenJDK? </div>
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applications to OpenJDK?<br>
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<div>Yes; would required volunteer time; hardware to run a nightly
build with that configuration and so on. I recently lost two
weeks to a build box at my current work site that was
incorrectly configured to use OpenJDK rather than Java 6. </div>
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<div> 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for
OSGeo-Live 5.5)?<br>
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We can help with testing packaged applications, but are
looking for guidance from projects on where we should be
focusing our energy.<br>
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<div>I do not think so; we would need hardware in place now.</div>
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<div>Our developers are an even split between mac, linux and
windows environments. As I understand it mac OpenJDK is not
ready yet (with no sign of arrival); windows is troubled. </div>
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<div>I would wait for OpenJDK Java 7 to be released; and then set
up a build box at that time.</div>
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<div>Jody</div>
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<div> An easy one is to add the extensions into
libs/ext and then run uDig without its "jre" folder
so it uses the system default. </div>
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<div>Geosolutions (i.e. Simone or Andrea) is the best
point of contact with respect to compatibility with
OpenJDK. Personally I was not going to bother until
Java 7 or Java 8.</div>
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<div>You could also try talking to Andrea Antonello
who at least uses Linux and may be able to test?</div>
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<div>If you want you can also contact me officially as
"GeoTools Officer" and I will take the question to
the geotools-devel email list for you. However I
expect I need a more than "Open JDK" (this page for
example does not give me much to work from <a
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href="http://openjdk.java.net/install/">http://openjdk.java.net/install/</a>).</div>
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<div>Jody Garnett<br>
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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, 30 December 2011
at 9:02 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</p>
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Jody and others,<br>
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Do you know if anyone has tested the
viability of using OpenJDK with
JAI/ImageIO/ImageIO-EXT (with the geotools
based applications)?<br>
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What would be involved in testing this? Who
would know how?<br>
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On 30/12/11 20:29, Jody Garnett wrote:
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<div> Need to check out how well or
poorly OpenJDK does with the JAI /
ImageIO / ImageIO-EXT combo for
geotools based apps. </div>
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-- <br>
Jody Garnett<br>
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<p style="color: rgb(160, 160, 168);">On
Friday, 30 December 2011 at 6:48 PM,
Brian Hamlin wrote:</p>
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<div>jsanz tells me that
GeoNetwork is also
running well under
OpenJDK for </div>
<div>him</div>
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<div>let this thread be an
entrypoint for Java-app
contacts to express
their</div>
<div>enthusiasm, dismay,
pain, resignation or
otherwise on the
adaptation</div>
<div>of an OpenJDK-only
LiveDVD release</div>
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<div>best regards from
Berkeley, California</div>
<div><br>
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<div>==</div>
<div>Brian Hamlin</div>
<div>GeoCal</div>
<div>OSGeo California
Chapter</div>
<div>415-717-4462 cell</div>
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