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    Andre, Even, Jody,<br>
    Thank you for your insights.<br>
    Based on your advice, it sounds like it will be unwise to try to
    migrate all java based OSGeo applications to OpenJDK by our
    OSGeo-Live5.5 release due in March 2012.<br>
    <br>
    As such, I propose that Sun Java be included on OSGeo-Live5.5.<br>
    <br>
    I'm hopeful that we can find enough space to include OpenJDK,
    (ideally version 7) on this and  future OSGeo-Live releases, and
    start moving all applications across to OpenJDK as soon as they are
    available. This will mean that the OSGeo-Live community can be drawn
    upon to help with testing which hopefully can be seen as a positive
    for java projects.<br>
    <br>
    Does this sound reasonable?<br>
    <br>
    Alex, it would be great if you could start the build process so that
    we can determine whether we can find sufficient space to include 2
    versions of java on OSGeo-Live.<br>
    <br>
    On 03/01/12 13:29, Jody Garnett wrote:
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            <div>Questions for Geotools developers:<br>
              1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now?<br>
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      <div>Not sure; even if they did without a build box configured
        with OpenJDK to ensure the library works in that environment it
        would not be considered a supported platform for production use.
        I always figure "demo" is almost more important then production
        use as it is a first impression.</div>
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      <div>By the same token I would not recommend projects based on
        GeoTools go live on OpenJDK without appropriate testing.</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>Perhaps the Geomajas guys could stand up a build box with
        OpenJDK? </div>
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            <div> 2. Is it possible to migrate geotools based
              applications to OpenJDK?<br>
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      <div>Yes; would required volunteer time; hardware to run a nightly
        build with that configuration and so on. I recently lost two
        weeks to a build box at my current work site that was
        incorrectly configured to use OpenJDK rather than Java 6. </div>
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            <div> 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for
              OSGeo-Live 5.5)?<br>
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              We can help with testing packaged applications, but are
              looking for guidance from projects on where we should be
              focusing our energy.<br>
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      <div>I do not think so; we would need hardware in place now.</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>Our developers are an even split between mac, linux and
        windows environments. As I understand it mac OpenJDK is not
        ready yet (with no sign of arrival); windows is troubled. </div>
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      <div>I would wait for OpenJDK Java 7 to be released; and then set
        up a build box at that time.</div>
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      <div>Jody</div>
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            <div> On 31/12/11 19:34, Jody Garnett wrote:
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                  <div> An easy one is to add the extensions into
                    libs/ext and then run uDig without its "jre" folder
                    so it uses the system default. </div>
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                  <div>Geosolutions (i.e. Simone or Andrea) is the best
                    point of contact with respect to compatibility with
                    OpenJDK. Personally I was not going to bother until
                    Java 7 or Java 8.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>You could also try talking to Andrea Antonello
                    who at least uses Linux and may be able to test?</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>If you want you can also contact me officially as
                    "GeoTools Officer" and I will take the question to
                    the geotools-devel email list for you. However I
                    expect I need a more than "Open JDK" (this page for
                    example does not give me much to work from <a
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                      href="http://openjdk.java.net/install/">http://openjdk.java.net/install/</a>).</div>
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                  <div>-- </div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett<br>
                    <div><br>
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                  <p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, 30 December 2011
                    at 9:02 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:</p>
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                            Jody and others,<br>
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                            Do you know if anyone has tested the
                            viability of using OpenJDK with
                            JAI/ImageIO/ImageIO-EXT (with the geotools
                            based applications)?<br>
                            <br>
                            What would be involved in testing this? Who
                            would know how?<br>
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                            On 30/12/11 20:29, Jody Garnett wrote:
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                                  <div> Need to check out how well or
                                    poorly OpenJDK does with the JAI /
                                    ImageIO / ImageIO-EXT combo for
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                                    -- <br>
                                    Jody Garnett<br>
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                                  <p style="color: rgb(160, 160, 168);">On
                                    Friday, 30 December 2011 at 6:48 PM,
                                    Brian Hamlin wrote:</p>
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                                              <div>jsanz tells me that
                                                GeoNetwork is also
                                                running well under
                                                OpenJDK for </div>
                                              <div>him</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>let this thread be an
                                                entrypoint for Java-app
                                                contacts to express
                                                their</div>
                                              <div>enthusiasm, dismay,
                                                pain, resignation or
                                                otherwise on the
                                                adaptation</div>
                                              <div>of an OpenJDK-only
                                                LiveDVD release</div>
                                              <div><br>
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                                              <div>best regards from
                                                Berkeley, California</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>==</div>
                                              <div>Brian Hamlin</div>
                                              <div>GeoCal</div>
                                              <div>OSGeo California
                                                Chapter</div>
                                              <div>415-717-4462 cell</div>
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