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    Tom, Angelos,<br>
    It sounds like you think pywcs is now a stable application? I notice
    that you have been doing CITE tests, which is a positive thing.<br>
    <br>
    Has pywcs been deployed into production into more than one location?<br>
    <br>
    Have there been users other than yourselves (Tom and Angelos) who
    have installed and deployed pycsw? Who?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 30/01/12 11:35, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
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      Thank you Cameron for the suggestion, <br>
      <br>
      We would be happy to include stable version 1.0 of pycsw to the
      disk :)<br>
      <br>
      This version is already tested in OSGeoLive 5.5beta1 and works
      fine.<br>
      In case we decide to officially include it, we just need to link
      the documentation files and translate.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Angelos<br>
      <br>
      On 01/29/2012 12:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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        Angelos, Tom,<br>
        <br>
        In preparing for osgeolive 5.0, I suggested that pycsw was
        probably not mature enough to be included in OSGeo-Live.<br>
        <br>
        I'm interested to understand how the project has matured since
        then.<br>
        If the project is ready, we will need to quickly review and
        update the documentation so it can be translated.<br>
        <br>
        On 27/04/11 18:34, Cameron Shorter wrote:
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          Angelos,<br>
          It is great to see interest from pycsw in joining the
          OSGeo-Live stable of quality applications.<br>
          <br>
          My initial feeling is that it would be great to include pywcs
          in a future release of OSGeo-Live, but as pywcs is still only
          at a 0.1 release, without wide uptake yet, it is premature to
          include pywcs into the next OSGeo-Live release.<br>
          <br>
          I believe that we have developed a reputation that if an
          application has been deployed on OSGeo-Live, then someone can
          expect that it has been deployed in many different locations,
          and tested by many different organisations. Hence, users can
          be confident that they will be unlikely to uncover any bugs by
          running standard operations.<br>
          <br>
          Feel free to suggest that I have mis-read the project, or
          argue otherwise.<br>
          <br>
          One option that we could potentially consider is including a
          pywcs install script on the DVD, but not call the install
          script from our main.sh install script. This would mean that
          pywcs would not be installed on OSGeo-Live, but it would be
          easy to run the pywcs install script and get pywcs installed
          if required by an expert. Would this be of interest?<br>
          <br>
          On 26/04/2011 9:06 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
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            <div class="" id="magicdomid2"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Hi all,</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid3"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">On behalf of the pycsw
                development team, I would like to ask if we can include
                our project in OSGeoLive 5.0.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid4"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid5"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">I am providing
                requested answers below:</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid6"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid7">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Please
                    describe your application.&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid8">
              <ul class="list-bullet3">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;What is
                      its name?&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid9"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid10"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid11">
              <ul class="list-bullet3">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;What is
                      the home page URL?</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid12"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pycsw.org/">http://pycsw.org/</a></span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid13"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid14">
              <ul class="list-bullet3">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Which OSI
                      approved Open Source Licence is used?&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid15"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">MIT</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid16"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid17">
              <ul class="list-bullet3">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;What does
                      the application do and how does it add value to
                      the GeoSpatial stack of software?&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid18"> <span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw is an OGC CSW
                server implementation written in Python.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid19"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw implements
                clause 10 (HTTP protocol binding (Catalogue Services for
                the Web, CSW)) of the OpenGIS Catalogue Service
                Implementation Specification, version 2.0.2.&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid20"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid21"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">We believe that pycsw
                would be a good addition for the LiveDVD, since it
                provides a lightweight</span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">, standalone</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> alternative to
                current Java-based, CSW server implementations.&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid22"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid23">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Stability
                    is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new
                    user&nbsp; finds a bug in one application, it will
                    tarnish the reputation of all&nbsp; other OSGeo-Live
                    applications as well. Do you have a bug free,
                    stable&nbsp; release, which has been rolled out to
                    production in a number of&nbsp; locations? Please discuss
                    the level of testing that your project has&nbsp; gone
                    through, the size of the community that uses the
                    application, and&nbsp; how long the project has had
                    mature code.</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid24"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Currently pycsw is in
                beta stage, but the latest 0.1.0 release is considered
                pretty stable.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid25"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">As a standalone CSW
                server implementation, pycsw passes 100% the OGC Cite
                tests for this release</span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">.&nbsp; CITE tests are
                run daily</span><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">.&nbsp;</span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo"> Additional tests
                are also provided with the source code which are tested
                before release. </span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">This latest release is
                well tested, but not currently </span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">deployed to </span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">a production </span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">e</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">n</span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">vironment</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">. Demo web pages can
                be found here: </span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://pycsw.org/demos.html">http://pycsw.org/demos.html</a></span><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid26"><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid27"><span
                class="author-g-2ur48mz122zeqj7dx2uo">&nbsp;The pycsw
                community is relatively new, and there is growing
                interest given the release of 0.1.0.</span><span
                class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y">&nbsp; pycsw integrates
                with other foss4g packages (i.e. OWSLib), and is already
                being integrated in various interoperability
                demonstrations (CSW &lt;-&gt; WPS integration with the
                ZOO project).</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid28"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid29"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid30">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;OSGeo-Live
                    is targeted at applications that people can use&nbsp;
                    rather than libraries. Does the application have a
                    user interface&nbsp; (possibly a command line interface)
                    that a user can interact with?&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid31"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw&nbsp; is a web
                service (implementation of OGC CSW standard). Currently
                it does not include client code (internally uses OWS</span><span
                class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y">L</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">ib in cases needed).
                There are some tester web pages (</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://pycsw.org/demos.html%29">http://pycsw.org/demos.html)</a></span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp; that are also
                included in a clean setup.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid32"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid33">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;We give
                    preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects
                    which are presented at FOSS4G&nbsp; conferences. If your
                    project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has&nbsp;
                    been selected to be presented at FOSS4G, then please
                    mention it.&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid34"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">We are a new project,
                and didn't have the chance yet to apply for OSGeo
                Incubation or get involved in a FOSS4G conference, but
                we hope to do so in the future :)</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid35"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid36">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;With around
                    50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core&nbsp;
                    packagers do not have the time to liaise with every
                    single project email&nbsp; list for each OSGeo-Live
                    release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to&nbsp; take
                    responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and
                    the project's&nbsp; communities. This volunteer will be
                    responsible for ensuring the install&nbsp; scripts and
                    English documentation are updated by someone for
                    each&nbsp; OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the
                    installed application and&nbsp; Quickstart documentation
                    works as expected on release candidate releases&nbsp; of
                    OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison
                    person.&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid37"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">I would be happy to
                act in the requested role, as I am already involved in
                the OSGeoLive project.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid38"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid39">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;OSGeo-Live
                    is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference
                    is:&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid40">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Install
                      from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid41">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Install
                      .deb files from a PPA&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid42">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <ul>
                  <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;Write a
                      custom install script&nbsp;</span></li>
                </ul>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid44"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can you
                please discuss how your application will be installed.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid45"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid46"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">At this moment, we
                have rpm packages for openSUSE and plan to create deb
                packages for Ubuntu. Until then, we can create an
                installation script (</span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://pycsw.org/installation.html">http://pycsw.org/installation.html</a></span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2"> )&nbsp;</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid47"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid48">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;We include
                    Windows and Mac installers for some applications.
                    Would you be wishing to include Windows and/or Mac
                    installers?</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid49"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Not at this point.
                Perhaps in the future releases</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid50"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid51">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;OSGeo-Live
                    is memory and disk constrained. Can the application
                    run in 512 Meg of RAM?&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid52"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Yes, pycsw can easily
                run even in 256 Meg of RAM under Apache Web Server</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid53"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid54">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;How much
                    disk space will be required to install the
                    application and a suitable example application?&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid55"><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">pycsw by itself only
                occupies ~2Mb of disk space. Its dependencies though
                (lxml, sqlalchemy, shapely), can occupy a bit more disk
                space if not already included in OSGeoLive already.</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid56"><br>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid57">
              <ul class="list-bullet2">
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp;We aim to
                    reduce disk space by having all applications make
                    use&nbsp; of a common dataset. We encourage applications
                    to make use of the&nbsp; example datasets already
                    installed:&nbsp;</span></li>
              </ul>
            </div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid58">
              <ul>
                <li><span class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 url"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a></span><span
                    class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2 padtag
                    padtag_Example_Datasets url"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets">#Example_Datasets</a></span><span
                    class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">&nbsp; If another
                    dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss
                    here. Is&nbsp; it appropriate, to remove existing demo
                    datasets which may already be&nbsp; included in the
                    standard release.&nbsp;</span></li>
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            <div class="" id="magicdomid60"><span
                class="author-g-8riyxoklomrf9u9y">pycsw exposes
                metadata, and as such requires sample XML documents
                (Dublin Core and ISO 19139:2007).&nbsp; </span><span
                class="author-g-k6xypurnqwqwkas2">Since the demo
                datasets for pycsw are plain xml metadata files in
                sqlite database files, we can include existing metadata
                xml files (perhaps Geonetwork demo data?). The demo
                metadata we provide are ~20 xml files (CITE data from
                OGC and some xml files created with gimed editor)</span></div>
            <div class="" id="magicdomid61"><br>
              Best regards,<br>
              Angelos<br>
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                <div> Angelos Tzotsos</div>
                <div>Remote Sensing Laboratory</div>
                <div>National Technical University of Athens</div>
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Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>

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Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a></pre>
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a>

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