<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"
data-hsystem="true"><style>p{margin: 0;padding: 0;}</style></head><body><p>Hi
Cameron - </p><p><br></p><p>  this netCDF data topic is perhaps a special
category, because of its use with climate and earth sciences data...</p><p>Ian
Edwards also points out that he is looking for increased visibility via OSGeo
Live, something we may be able to </p><p>help with...</p><p><br></p><p>  I
notice in the 1.40rc1 source tree, that most of the disk space is taken by the
visual tests .png's</p><p>also there is one data
file, lib/iris/tests/stock_arrays.npz  that is 17MB</p><p>When using git to
clone the project, git adds a project directory that is bg,
too</p><p><br></p><p>  Perhaps we could make a downloadable file, or even a
debian package, of IRIS 1.4.0 that has </p><p>a lighter footprint of test data?
 for our disk-constrained project ?</p><p><br></p><p>  It is encouraging to
hear Massimo give his enthusiastic support.. </p><p><br></p><p>  best regards
from Berkeley, California</p><p>   -Brian</p><p><br></p><p><br>On Wed, 12 Jun
2013 19:24:35 -0400, epi <massimodisasha@gmail.com>
wrote:<br></p><blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);
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charset=iso-8859-1">Hi,<div><br></div><div><div><div>We (as WHOI and USGS in
north east US) are using IRIS intensively for plotting data in our python
workflows coming from netcdf dataset.</div><div><br></div><div>IRIS in union
with PyCSW the Ipython Notebook (already installed in osgeolive 6.5) and other
geo-related python libraries (all already installed into
osgeolive) </div><div>will allow us to build really powerful workflow . 
definitely a big deal for the osgeolive project!</div><div>I'm strongly in favor
of this addiction.</div><div><br></div><div>i'll be happy to provide my
contribution to build overview and quickstart as
well.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>Massimo.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Il
giorno 12/giu/2013, alle ore 19:01, Cameron Shorter <<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:</div><br
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ian,<br>
      Thanks for your application for IRIS. The project does seem to
      have much going for it.<br>
      The question I'm still unclear on is whether the project is too
      specialised for the vast majority of people who pick up
      OSGeo-Live, and is it seriously used outside of UK Met Office.<br><br>
      A primary focus on OSGeo-Live is to help new users looking for
      established OSGeo projects. (A side benefit of helping new users
      is that we provide a marketing pipeline for the established
      projects).<br>
      We need to be careful that we don't include every project looking
      for a community, as it confuses users, which in turn reduces the
      value of OSGeo-Live for all.<br><br>
      Based upon your explanation below, it seems that IRIS still would
      need to attract users from outside the UK Met Office before it
      could be considered to have an established community?<br>
      Is this something you can talk to? Maybe IRIS would be a better
      candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a future release?<br><br>
      On 12/06/2013 6:54 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:<br></div>
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              <ul><li>Please describe your application. 
                  <br><br><ul><ul><div class="im">
                        <li>What is its name? <b>Iris</b> </li>
                        <li>What is the home page URL? <b><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://scitools.org.uk/"
target="_blank">http://scitools.org.uk/</a></b><br></li>
                      </div>
                      <li>Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is
                        used? <b>LGPL</b><span><span face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color:
#0000ff; font-family: Arial;"> <b><span face="Times New
                                Roman" size="3" _mce_style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman'; font-size: small;" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size:
small;">v3</span></b></span></span>
                      </li>
                      <li>
                        <div class="im">What does the application do and
                          how does it add value to the GeoSpatial stack
                          of software?<br></div>
                        <div dir="ltr"><strong>The Iris python package
                            allows</strong><span><span face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color:
#0000ff; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span><strong>users

                            to work with large multi-dimensional
                            datasets such as those found in the fields
                            of weather and climate science. Iris builds
                            on the semantics and data model from the
                            Climate and Forecasting conventions for
                            NetCDF (CF-NetCDF) which exist to define the
                            metadata within NetCDF files in order to
                            provide a definitive description of each of
                            the data variables including their spatial
                            and temporal properties. CF-NetCDF is being
                            adopted by the OGC as a WCS payload format. 
                            <br><br>
                            Iris enables users of data from different
                            sources to build applications with powerful
                            extraction, regridding, and display
                            capabilities and export their data to CF
                            compliant NetCDF. The ability to provide
                            data sets of three, four, and
                            higher-dimensions represents a significant
                            expansion of the capabilities of web
                            coverage services</strong><span><span face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color:
#0000ff; font-family: Arial;">
                              <span face="Times New Roman" size="3"
_mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><strong>which require
                                  tooling to generate the data sets.<span
size="3" _mce_style="font-size: small;" style="font-size: small;"> </span>
                                  <span size="3" _mce_style="font-size: small;"
style="font-size: small;">NetCDF and
t</span></strong></span></span></span><strong>he
                            CF conventions provide extensive
                            capabilities for multidimensional
data</strong><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color:
#0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff; font-family:
Arial;"> <strong><span face="Times New Roman" size="3" _mce_style="font-family:
'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: small;">,</span></strong> </span></span><strong>Iris

                            can provide an interface to NetCDF data
                            sets. </strong></div>
                        <br></li>
                      <li>
                        <div class="im">Does the application make use of
                          OGC standards? Which versions of the
                          standards? Client or server? You may wish to
                          add comments about how standards are used. <br></div>
                        <span><span face="Arial" _mce_style="font-family:
Arial;" style="font-family: Arial;"><b>This Iris data
                              model follows the CF-NetCDF 1.6
                              conventions
                            </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/netcdf"
target="_blank"><b>http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/netcdf</b></a><b><br></b><b>Current
use cases include using Iris
                              to convert data into a format suitable for
                              use with GeoServer to serve slices of
                              multi-dimensional datasets via WMS 1.1.1
                              and 1.3.0<br>
                              Developers are currently looking at
                              integrating Iris with Zoo-project to allow
                              users to interact with the library via WPS
                              calls.</b></span></span><span><span face="Arial"
_mce_style="font-family: Arial;" style="font-family:
Arial;"><b><br></b></span></span><br></li>
                    </ul><div class="im">
                      <ul><li>What language is it written in? <b>Python</b>
                        </li>
                        <li>Which version of the application should be
                          included in the next OSGeo-Live release?<br>
                           <b>- Iris 1.4.0 (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris/tags"
target="_blank">https://github.com/SciTools/iris/tags</a>)</b><br><br></li>
                      </ul></div>
                  </ul></li>
                <li>
                  <div class="im">Stability is very important to us on
                    OSGeo-Live. If a new user finds a bug in one
                    application, it will tarnish the reputation of all
                    other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most
                    attention to the following answers):<br><br></div>
                  <ul><li>
                      <div class="im">If risk adverse organisations have
                        deployed your application into production, it
                        would imply that these organisations have
                        verified the stability of your software. Has the
                        application been rolled out to production into
                        risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
                        Please mention some of these organisations? <br></div>
                      <span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"><span face="Times New Roman" size="3"
_mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><b>Iris was developed
by the
                              UK Met Office (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://metoffice.gov.uk/" target="_blank">metoffice.gov.uk</a>) to
                              provide a more robust, intuitive and
                              standards complaint environment for use
                              across the organisation's research and
                              production systems.  The software was
                              released as open source to ensure easy
                              collaboration with partners and external
                              developers are now also contributing to
                              code base.</b></span></span></span><br></li>
                    <div class="im">
                      <li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.ohloh.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ohloh</a> provides
metrics to
                        help assess the health of a project. Eg:
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html</a> Could you
                        please ensure that your project is registered
                        with Ohloh, and Ohloh has been updated to
                        reference the correct code repository(s) for
                        your project. What is the Ohloh URL for your
                        project?
                        <br><b>  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ohloh.net/p/scitools-iris"
target="_blank">http://www.ohloh.net/p/scitools-iris</a></b><br></li>
                    </div>
                    <li>
                      <div class="im">What is the size of the user
                        community? You can often answer this by
                        mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy,
                        busy email list?<br></div>
                      <b>  </b><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"> <span face="Times New Roman" size="3"
_mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><b>Within the Met
Office we
                              have over 250 unique users.  Externally we
                              are in contact with collaborators who
                              also use the software, we would like to
                              use OSGeo Live to increase the user
base</b></span></span></span><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></li>
                  </ul></li>
              </ul></div>
            <ul><ul><div class="im">
                  <li><span> </span>What is the size of your developer
                    community?<br><b>  The project currently has 5 full time
core
                      developers and an additional 3-6
developers.</b><br><br></li>
                </div>
                <li>
                  <div class="im">Do you have a bug free, stable
                    release?<br></div>
                  <span><span face="Arial" _mce_style="font-family: Arial;"
style="font-family: Arial;"><b>   Yes, The Met Office has
                        currently deployed the stable
1.4.0 release.</b></span></span><br><br></li>
                <li>
                  <div class="im">Please discuss the level of testing
                    that your project has gone through.<br></div>
                  <span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color:
#0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff; font-family:
Arial;"><b>  <span> The 1.4.0 release has over
                          1,200 unit tests.  Each pull request must pass
                          peer-review and Travis CI testing before being
                          merged into the project<br>
                             e.g. </span></b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://travis-ci.org/SciTools/iris/builds/7844677"
target="_blank"><b>https://travis-ci.org/SciTools/iris/builds/7844677</b></a></span></span><br></li>
                <div class="im">
                  <li>How long has the project has had mature code.<br><b> 
Iris has been considered mature since the 1.0
                      release in October 2012.</b><br></li>
                </div>
              </ul><li>
                <div class="im">OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications
                  that people can use rather than libraries. Does the
                  application have a user interface (possibly a command
                  line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do
                  make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and
                  will include Project Overviews for these libraries,
                  even if they don't have a user interface.)<br></div>
                <div class="im"><b>  </b><b>  </b><b><b><b>No,
                        this is a software library<br>
                            </b></b>For examples, see: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/gallery.html" target="_blank">
http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/gallery.html</a></b><br></div>
              </li>
              <div class="im">
                <li>We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or
                  Projects which are presented at
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://foss4g.org/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FOSS4G</a>
                  conferences. If your project is involved in OSGeo
                  Incubation, or has been selected to be presented at
                  FOSS4G, then please mention it.<br><b>  FOSS4G 2013 Workshop:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15" target="_blank">
                     
http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15</a></b><br><b>  FOSS4G 2013
Presentation: Cartopy and Iris: Open
                    Source Python Tools for Analysis and Visualisation</b> 
                  <br></li>
                <li>With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live,
                  us core packagers do not have the time to liaise with
                  every single project email list for each OSGeo-Live
                  release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to take
                  responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the
                  project's communities. This volunteer will be
                  responsible for ensuring the install scripts and
                  English documentation are updated by someone for each
                  OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed
                  application and Quickstart documentation works as
                  expected on release candidate releases of OSGeo-Live. 
                  Who will act as the project's liaison person. 
                  <br><b>   Ian Edwards - ian.edwards [ a t ] <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://metoffice.gov.uk/" target="_blank">
                      metoffice.gov.uk</a></b><br></li>
                <li>OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
                  preference is:
                  <ol><li>Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS </li>
                    <li>Install .deb files from a PPA </li>
                    <li>Write a custom install script </li>
                  </ol></li>
              </div>
            </ul><div class="im">
              <dl><dd>Can you please discuss how your application will be
                  installed.<br></dd>
                <dd><b>   We intend to provide a PPA within the
                    timeframe of OSGeo Live 7 development<br></b></dd>
                <dd><b>   Currently users install from recipes: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/SciTools/installation-recipes"
target="_blank">
                     
https://github.com/SciTools/installation-recipes</a><br></b></dd>
                <dd><b>   </b><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"> </span></span><b>Automated
                    Ubuntu install:
                  </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris/blob/master/.travis.yml"
target="_blank"><b>https://github.com/SciTools/iris/blob/master/.travis.yml</b></a><br></dd>
              </dl><ul><li>OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the
                  application run in 512 Meg of RAM?<br><b>  Yes</b><br></li>
              </ul></div>
            <ul><li>
                <div class="im">How much disk space will be required to
                  install the application and a suitable example
                  application?<br></div>
                <b>  </b><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"> <b><span face="Times New Roman" size="3"
_mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;">The
                        Iris python code is only 3.3 Mb.  The size of
                        the install will depend on which of the
                        dependencies are already available on OSGeo
                        Live, but the final install will still be small,
                        see:
                      </span></b></span><span face="Arial"
_mce_style="font-family: Arial;" style="font-family: Arial;"><span><span
color="#0000ff" _mce_style="color: #0000ff;" style="color: #0000ff;"><b><span
face="Times New Roman" size="3" _mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: small;" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/installing.html#build-requirements"
target="_blank">http://scitools.org.uk/iris/docs/latest/installing.html#build-requirements</a></span></b></span></span></span></span></li>
            </ul><div><span></span><span></span> </div>
            <ul><li>
                <div class="im"><span> </span>We aim to reduce disk
                  space by having all applications make use of a common
                  dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the
                  example datasets already installed:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a>
                  If another dataset would be more appropriate, please
                  discuss here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing
                  demo datasets which may already be included in the
                  standard release.<br></div>
                <b>  </b><span><span face="Arial" color="#0000ff"
_mce_style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;" style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: Arial;"> <b><span face="Times New Roman" _mce_style="font-family:
'Times New Roman';" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span size="3"
_mce_style="font-size: small;" style="font-size: small;">Additional
sample</span></span></b> <b><span face="Times New Roman" size="3"
_mce_style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"
style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;">data,

                        if required, can be downloaded by the user from
                        the web <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/SciTools/iris-sample-data"
target="_blank">https://github.com/SciTools/iris-sample-data</a></span></b></span></span><br></li>
            </ul><div class="im">
              <ul><li>Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project
                  Overview available under a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">
                    CC By</a> and a Quickstart available under a <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
                    CC By-SA</a> license. (You may release under a
                  second license as well). Will you produce this?
                  <br><b>  Yes</b><br></li>
              </ul><ul><li>In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
                  installers for some applications. It is likely we
                  won't have space for these in future releases. 
                  However, if there is room, would you be wishing to
                  include Windows and/or Mac installers?
                  <br><b>  Windows support is still in development we
                    currently have a small Mac user group - we certainly
                    would like to be able to provide both in the future,
                    but probably not on this release.</b><br></li>
              </ul></div>
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