<div dir="ltr">Hi Cameron,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your reply and for pointing out the community building article from Apache.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand the point of view of a big organization accepting a small project. I usually say that all "big symphonies started with a scratch on a paper". Every project starts insignificant and most of the projects that grown easy, it's because they are carried at the giant's shoulders - hey, that's what I'm asking here!!! :)</div><div>Sometimes is not about <i>how many people</i>, but more about <i>how much work </i>and I believe OSGeo Live can recognize the difference.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course I will continue to make publicity about the benefits of using MapIgniter2 even if marketing, social media and talks are not my biggest strengths...</div><div><br></div><div>We all know it's not easy to having people to join us, and I may be wrong here but... I think that recent libraries/frameworks somehow they scare developers that just don't want to go out of their comfort zones :)</div><div><br></div>Anyway, thanks for your encouragement and please keep an eye on further developments. I hope more people will join in and start using it and somehow it will be started to be called a <i>community</i>.<div><br></div><div>I take this opportunity to ask all OSGeo Live community to download MapIgniter2 and make some trials with your data and please fill issues on GitHub or submit new features! That's one biggest way to grow an Open Source project. You are all invited :)<br><div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Marco<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-26 18:28 GMT+00:00 Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Marco,<br>
It sounds like you have the start of a good project.<br>
However, my feeling is that has not yet reached the maturity of the
other projects we have on OSGeo-Live.<br>
In particular, we help new users answer the questions:<br>
* What good open source GIS projects are out there?<br>
* What is everyone else using?<br>
<br>
What I suggest working on is getting a stronger answer to the second
question.<br>
Aim to build up a community behind your project.<br>
Look to get your project used by many organisations.<br>
Aim to attract developers from these organisations.<br>
I know this is a tough ask, and often takes years to attract such a
community.<br>
But attracting a community is the true test of whether a project is
valuable or not.<br>
<br>
Apache has a good page about building a community which might be
worth a read:<br>
<a href="http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 26/11/2015 6:39 am, Marco Afonso
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello Alex,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you for your reply.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Follows the MapIgniter application request to integrate
OSGeo Live. As we can see, this is a very recent project but
with very good technological background to evolve and
specially satisfy user needs.</div>
<div>I hope it can be accepted. If work has to be done, I'm on
it!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Marco</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<b>Please describe your application.<br>
<br>
What is its name?</b>
<div>It's name is MapIgniter2. The name came from previous
release, where it was based on CodeIgniter PHP framework.<br>
<div><br>
<b>What is the home page URL?</b></div>
The project's home is hosted on GitHub at <a href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2" target="_blank">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2</a></div>
<div>
<div><br>
<b>Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used?</b></div>
<div>It uses the MIT license.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What does the application do and how does it add value
to the GeoSpatial stack of software?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter is a GeoCMS which combines web mapping
features with Content Management System (CMS) features. It
is a browser-based software, or more commonly refered as a
web application. The main purpose of this software is to let
users publish Geographic Information on the Internet /
Intranet on a free and Open Source platform. Considering
that there are other Open Source web mapping platforms,
MapIgniter distinguishes it self, and adds value to
GeoSpatial stack software, by being powered by cutting edge
Javascript and PHP frameworks/libraries, providing the best
tools for creating modern web applications.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><br>
<b>Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which
versions of the standards? Client or server? You may wish
to add comments about how standards are used.</b></div>
<div>This software makes use of a subset of OGC standards;
currently WMS and WFS. Specific version numbers can be
configured by the user. MapIgniter backoffice interface
allows to configure these OGC service parameters to be used
by OpenLayers 3 (frontend web mapping library).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What language is it written in?</b></div>
<div>The default interface language is English. Also includes
Portuguese language files. Any idiom can be added later.
This is a feature of the PHP Laravel Architecture which is
the PHP Framework that powers this software.</div>
<div><br>
<b>Which version of the application should be included in
the next OSGeo-Live release?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter2 targets release 1.0 for the next release of
OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
<b>Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new
user finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the
reputation of all other OSGeo-Live applications as well.
(We pay most attention to the following answers):<br>
<br>
If risk adverse organisations have deployed your
application into production, it would imply that these
organisations have verified the stability of your
software. Has the application been rolled out to
production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
Please mention some of these organisations?</b></div>
<div>The number of organisations using MapIgniter2 is unknown.
Mainly because this is a very recent software. Although,
being MapIgniter built upon Laravel 5.1 and OpenLayers 3,
these two frameworks have proven it's success in web
development applications it's usage by a number of
companies.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div>Laravel Jobs <a href="https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/" target="_blank">https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/</a></div>
<div>Openlayers Sponsors <a href="http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html" target="_blank">http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of
a project. Eg: <a href="http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html" target="_blank">http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html</a>
Could you please ensure that your project is registered
with Open HUB, and Open HUB has been updated to reference
the correct code repository(s) for your project. What is
the Open HUB URL for your project?</b></div>
<div>The Open Hub URL is <a href="https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2" target="_blank">https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What is the size of the user community? You can often
answer this by mentioning downloads, or describing a
healthy, busy email list?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter2 has no community yet. The previous release
has 10 forks on GitHub, 19 starred and 9 people watching the
repository. The Google groups has been some activity since
2012 until April 2015 from several users.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What is the size of your developer community?</b></div>
<div>Currently there is one developer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>Do you have a bug free, stable release?</b></div>
<div>Not yet.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>Please discuss the level of testing that your project
has gone through.</b></div>
<div>There will be automated tests in soon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>How long has the project has had mature code.</b></div>
<div>The project is very recent.</div>
<div><br>
<b>OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can
use rather than libraries. Does the application have a
user interface (possibly a command line interface) that a
user can interact with? (We do make an exception for
Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a
user interface.)</b></div>
<div>Yes the software works on a web browser interface.</div>
<div><br>
<b>We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or
Projects which are presented at FOSS4G conferences. If
your project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been
selected to be presented at FOSS4G, then please mention
it.</b></div>
<div>Previous release of MapIgniter was presented to the OSGeo
Portuguese community on the 16th November 2012.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div><a href="http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318</a><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/" target="_blank">http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/</a><br>
</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live,
us core packagers do not have the time to liaise with
every single project email list for each OSGeo-Live
release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to take
responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the
project's communities. This volunteer will be responsible
for ensuring the install scripts and English documentation
are updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. Also
test that the installed application and Quickstart
documentation works as expected on release candidate
releases of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's
liaison person.</b><br>
</div>
<b><br>
OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
preference is:<br>
<br>
Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS<br>
Install .deb files from a PPA<br>
Write a custom install script<br>
<br>
Can you please discuss how your application will be
installed.</b></div>
<div><b>MapIgniter is a web mapping application based on PHP
Laravel 5.1 Framework. Laravel framework runs over Apache2
or Nginx web servers. MapIgniter system requirements matches
Laravel 5.1 requirements.</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter install procedure is similar to Laravel install
procedure. It can be manually installed by using the
instructions documented in MapIgniter GitHub repository. Also,
there is an install script (linux) that automates the install
process. Just enter onto Apache public folder and run from
shell curl <a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh" target="_blank">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh</a>
| sudo sh</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div>Laravel Documentation <a href="http://laravel.com/docs/5.1" target="_blank">http://laravel.com/docs/5.1</a><br>
</div>
<div>Install script <a href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh" target="_blank">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><b>OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the
application run in 512 Meg of RAM?</b><br>
</div>
<div>Yes.<br>
<br>
<b>How much disk space will be required to install the
application and a suitable example application?</b></div>
<div>Approximately 38 Mbytes.</div>
<div><br>
<b>We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications
make use of a common dataset. We encourage applications to
make use of the example datasets already installed:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a>
If another dataset would be more appropriate, please
discuss here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing demo
datasets which may already be included in the standard
release.</b></div>
<div>Examples datasets provided by OSGeo Live are fine to be
used with MapIgniter. Optimum data is with native Web
Mercator projection.</div>
<div><br>
<b>Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview
available under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a
CC By-SA license. (You may release under a second license
as well). Will you produce this?</b></div>
<div>Yes.<br>
<br>
<b>In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
installers for some applications. It is likely we won't
have space for these in future releases. However, if there
is room, would you be wishing to include Windows and/or
Mac installers?</b></div>
<div>Yes, Windows installer.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-25 17:01 GMT+00:00 Alex Mandel
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tech_dev@wildintellect.com" target="_blank">tech_dev@wildintellect.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 11/25/2015 08:24 AM, Marco Afonso wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I would like to submit a new project for OSGeo-Live.<br>
><br>
> The project in case is MapIgniter2.<br>
> Here is the home of the project: <a href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2" target="_blank">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2</a><br>
><br>
> I would like to know what are the requirements and
procedures to be<br>
> accepted to integrate OSGeo Live.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</span>Marco,<br>
<br>
Reply to this thread with the answers to the following
questions:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply</a><br>
<br>
<br>
The expanded details of adding new projects is documented
at:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alex<br>
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