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Hi Cameron,<br>
<br>
At the time when OSGeo Live started, no project had to answer a
questionnaire, that almost looks like a "Mini application for
incubation". So I think there are quite a few installed on OSGeo
Live, that wouldn't qualify with the rules you're setting now:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html">http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html</a><br>
<br>
I can understand the frustration of some, who would like to make
their project available on OSGeo Live to reach out to more users.
Because this might be actually a way to build a community. We could
help them to achieve something, that is pretty difficult and can
take years.<br>
<br>
So I'm not sure we have to be so strict in terms of community and
maturity.<br>
We should be more strict in how software is installed (ie. providing
packages) and that there is someone maintaining the project for
OSGeo Live.<br>
<br>
Just some thoughts,<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/11/15 14:43, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:clement@igonet.fr">clement@igonet.fr</a>
wrote:<br>
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That's the answer I got for OpenEarthView project...<br>
<br>
OsGeoLive is made for user only, not at all to help starting
promising projects.<br>
<br>
That's frustrating.<br>
<br>
They get the good part of free and open source projects, refusing
to take the risk of helping new ones.<br>
<br>
What to say... That's not the open source (and open mind)
philosophy...<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">Le 26 novembre 2015 19:28:14 UTC+01:00,
Cameron Shorter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
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padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Marco,<br>
It sounds like you have the start of a good project.<br>
However, my feeling is that has not yet reached the maturity
of the other projects we have on OSGeo-Live.<br>
In particular, we help new users answer the questions:<br>
* What good open source GIS projects are out there?<br>
* What is everyone else using?<br>
<br>
What I suggest working on is getting a stronger answer to the
second question.<br>
Aim to build up a community behind your project.<br>
Look to get your project used by many organisations.<br>
Aim to attract developers from these organisations.<br>
I know this is a tough ask, and often takes years to attract
such a community.<br>
But attracting a community is the true test of whether a
project is valuable or not.<br>
<br>
Apache has a good page about building a community which might
be worth a read:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html">http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html</a><br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/2015 6:39 am, Marco
Afonso wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello Alex,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you for your reply.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Follows the MapIgniter application request to
integrate OSGeo Live. As we can see, this is a very
recent project but with very good technological
background to evolve and specially satisfy user needs.</div>
<div>I hope it can be accepted. If work has to be done,
I'm on it!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Marco</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<b>Please describe your application.<br>
<br>
What is its name?</b>
<div>It's name is MapIgniter2. The name came from previous
release, where it was based on CodeIgniter PHP
framework.<br>
<div><br>
<b>What is the home page URL?</b></div>
The project's home is hosted on GitHub at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2</a></a></div>
<div>
<div><br>
<b>Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used?</b></div>
<div>It uses the MIT license.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What does the application do and how does it add
value to the GeoSpatial stack of software?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter is a GeoCMS which combines web mapping
features with Content Management System (CMS)
features. It is a browser-based software, or more
commonly refered as a web application. The main
purpose of this software is to let users publish
Geographic Information on the Internet / Intranet on a
free and Open Source platform. Considering that there
are other Open Source web mapping platforms,
MapIgniter distinguishes it self, and adds value to
GeoSpatial stack software, by being powered by cutting
edge Javascript and PHP frameworks/libraries,
providing the best tools for creating modern web
applications.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><br>
<b>Does the application make use of OGC standards?
Which versions of the standards? Client or server?
You may wish to add comments about how standards are
used.</b></div>
<div>This software makes use of a subset of OGC
standards; currently WMS and WFS. Specific version
numbers can be configured by the user. MapIgniter
backoffice interface allows to configure these OGC
service parameters to be used by OpenLayers 3
(frontend web mapping library).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What language is it written in?</b></div>
<div>The default interface language is English. Also
includes Portuguese language files. Any idiom can be
added later. This is a feature of the PHP Laravel
Architecture which is the PHP Framework that powers
this software.</div>
<div><br>
<b>Which version of the application should be included
in the next OSGeo-Live release?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter2 targets release 1.0 for the next
release of OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
<b>Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If
a new user finds a bug in one application, it will
tarnish the reputation of all other OSGeo-Live
applications as well. (We pay most attention to the
following answers):<br>
<br>
If risk adverse organisations have deployed your
application into production, it would imply that
these organisations have verified the stability of
your software. Has the application been rolled out
to production into risk (ideally risk adverse)
organisations? Please mention some of these
organisations?</b></div>
<div>The number of organisations using MapIgniter2 is
unknown. Mainly because this is a very recent
software. Although, being MapIgniter built upon
Laravel 5.1 and OpenLayers 3, these two frameworks
have proven it's success in web development
applications it's usage by a number of companies.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div>Laravel Jobs <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/"
target="_blank">https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/</a></div>
<div>Openlayers Sponsors <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html"
target="_blank">http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the
health of a project. Eg: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html"
target="_blank">http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html</a>
Could you please ensure that your project is
registered with Open HUB, and Open HUB has been
updated to reference the correct code repository(s)
for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your
project?</b></div>
<div>The Open Hub URL is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2">https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What is the size of the user community? You can
often answer this by mentioning downloads, or
describing a healthy, busy email list?</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter2 has no community yet. The previous
release has 10 forks on GitHub, 19 starred and 9
people watching the repository. The Google groups has
been some activity since 2012 until April 2015 from
several users.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>What is the size of your developer community?</b></div>
<div>Currently there is one developer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>Do you have a bug free, stable release?</b></div>
<div>Not yet.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>Please discuss the level of testing that your
project has gone through.</b></div>
<div>There will be automated tests in soon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>How long has the project has had mature code.</b></div>
<div>The project is very recent.</div>
<div><br>
<b>OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people
can use rather than libraries. Does the application
have a user interface (possibly a command line
interface) that a user can interact with? (We do
make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and
will include Project Overviews for these libraries,
even if they don't have a user interface.)</b></div>
<div>Yes the software works on a web browser interface.</div>
<div><br>
<b>We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or
Projects which are presented at FOSS4G conferences.
If your project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or
has been selected to be presented at FOSS4G, then
please mention it.</b></div>
<div>Previous release of MapIgniter was presented to the
OSGeo Portuguese community on the 16th November 2012.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318">http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318</a><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/">http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/</a><br>
</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>With around 50 applications installed on
OSGeo-Live, us core packagers do not have the time
to liaise with every single project email list for
each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer
(or two) to take responsibility for liaising between
OSGeo-Live and the project's communities. This
volunteer will be responsible for ensuring the
install scripts and English documentation are
updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. Also
test that the installed application and Quickstart
documentation works as expected on release candidate
releases of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the
project's liaison person.</b><br>
</div>
<b><br>
OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
preference is:<br>
<br>
Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS<br>
Install .deb files from a PPA<br>
Write a custom install script<br>
<br>
Can you please discuss how your application will be
installed.</b></div>
<div><b>MapIgniter is a web mapping application based on
PHP Laravel 5.1 Framework. Laravel framework runs over
Apache2 or Nginx web servers. MapIgniter system
requirements matches Laravel 5.1 requirements.</b></div>
<div>MapIgniter install procedure is similar to Laravel
install procedure. It can be manually installed by using
the instructions documented in MapIgniter GitHub
repository. Also, there is an install script (linux)
that automates the install process. Just enter onto
Apache public folder and run from shell curl <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh</a></a>
| sudo sh</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please see</div>
<div>Laravel Documentation <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://laravel.com/docs/5.1">http://laravel.com/docs/5.1</a><br>
</div>
<div>Install script <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><b>OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can
the application run in 512 Meg of RAM?</b><br>
</div>
<div>Yes.<br>
<br>
<b>How much disk space will be required to install the
application and a suitable example application?</b></div>
<div>Approximately 38 Mbytes.</div>
<div><br>
<b>We aim to reduce disk space by having all
applications make use of a common dataset. We
encourage applications to make use of the example
datasets already installed:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a>
If another dataset would be more appropriate, please
discuss here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing
demo datasets which may already be included in the
standard release.</b></div>
<div>Examples datasets provided by OSGeo Live are fine
to be used with MapIgniter. Optimum data is with
native Web Mercator projection.</div>
<div><br>
<b>Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project
Overview available under a CC By and a Quickstart
available under a CC By-SA license. (You may release
under a second license as well). Will you produce
this?</b></div>
<div>Yes.<br>
<br>
<b>In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
installers for some applications. It is likely we
won't have space for these in future releases.
However, if there is room, would you be wishing to
include Windows and/or Mac installers?</b></div>
<div>Yes, Windows installer.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-25 17:01 GMT+00:00 Alex
Mandel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tech_dev@wildintellect.com"
target="_blank">tech_dev@wildintellect.com</a>></span>:<br>
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class="">On 11/25/2015 08:24 AM, Marco Afonso wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I would like to submit a new project for
OSGeo-Live.<br>
><br>
> The project in case is MapIgniter2.<br>
> Here is the home of the project: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2">https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2</a></a><br>
><br>
> I would like to know what are the requirements
and procedures to be<br>
> accepted to integrate OSGeo Live.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</span>Marco,<br>
<br>
Reply to this thread with the answers to the following
questions:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply</a><br>
<br>
<br>
The expanded details of adding new projects is
documented at:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alex<br>
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