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Hi Luis,<br>
Yes, this is excellent material.<br>
I'm happy to provide some feedback on the semantics of your content
a bit later.<br>
<br>
But first I think we should plan a long term strategy for how OGC
standards are developed and published, and refine our ground rules.
Maybe something like a MoU.<br>
<br>
What is OGC's schedule? Does it fit with the OSGeo-Live schedule?
What should be included in the next release?<br>
Scott's comment earlier was "some things to review shortly after the
New Year". So we would need a bit more insight before we expand on
that.<br>
<br>
What will be our development model. Who will be allowed/encouraged
to edit docs? Do you want to try and tap into the OSGeo community to
create content? If so, we should publish a "Howto contribute", along
with a template for standards.<br>
Do we want to publish our material to wikipedia or other sources?<br>
<br>
We should try to avoid multiple points of truth. I'd imagine that
the OGC would maintain a point of truth, which then gets
incorporated into OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
OSGeo-Live docs get translated into 10+ languages by the OSGeo-Live
community. Does the OGC wish to take advantage of this? If so, we
should work out the process.<br>
<br>
The documents you mention are referencing an external WMS Server.
This introduces potential obsolescence issues, such as if the
server changes of goes down in a year or two. OSGeo-Live also has
WMS Servers, with sample data. This could potentially be used as
reference source. (Note, we'd need to think through security of
OSGeo Live if publishing to the web) <br>
<br>
We have the potential to create an OGC training course, all self
contained on the OSGeo-Live VM, with overviews, exercises and sample
data. It would involve tweaking your existing docs, matching with
web services and data already on OSGeo-Live. Is this a goal you
would wish to pursue?<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/2015 2:11 am, Luis Bermudez
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<div>We also have some material that you might consider including
in the OSGeo-Live DVD available at the OGC E-Learning
repository. The standards in the repository have a main page
that provides an introduction to the standard. See for example:</div>
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<div>- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/kml/text/basic-main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/kml/text/basic-main.rst</a></div>
<div>- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/csw/text/main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/csw/text/main.rst</a></div>
<div>- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst">https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst</a></div>
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<div>You can see our deployment here:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>As always your comments are much welcomed.</div>
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<div>Best Regards</div>
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Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning<br>
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)<br>
Skype: bermudez_luis<br>
Twitter: @berdez<br>
Tel: +1 301 760 7323<br>
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<div>On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Scott Simmons <<a
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<div class="">Not quite at the hint point yet… but I
expect that we will have some things to review shortly
after the New Year.</div>
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<div class="">Best Regards,</div>
<div class="">Scott</div>
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<div class="">On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Cameron
Shorter <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Scott,<br class="">
Thanks for providing some hints at what is
coming. <br class="">
Are you in a position yet to share plans about
your schedule and at what point you would be
looking for feedback?<br class="">
<br class="">
Warm regards, Cameron<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/2015 12:27
pm, Scott Simmons wrote:<br class="">
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Dear Cameron,<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks for attending the Sydney GeoRabble last
night and paying attention to my talk! As I
noted last night, the OGC Membership will
continue to develop Standards according to our
process and the normative publications will
remain in a format that is most compatible
with the requirements of our members and
alliance partners. However, we are working
toward one or more alternative publication
“styles” and auxiliary material to assist the
broad developer community with implementation
of OGC Standards.
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">We appreciate the offer of
including such an alternative publication
style in the OSGeo-Live DVD. Given the need
to ensure that our documentation directly
references OGC and dependent normative
resources, it is not practical at this stage
to connect the development of the documents
to the upcoming OSGeo-Live release. We are
happy to discuss at a later stage how we
might coordinate as our process matures. In
the meantime, we encourage OSGeo and all our
partners to provide feedback to us as we
release these new formats.<br class="">
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<div class="">Good seeing you last night.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">Best Regards,</div>
<div class="">Scott</div>
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<div class="">Scott Simmons</div>
<div class="">Executive Director,
Standards Program</div>
<div class="">Open Geospatial Consortium
(OGC)</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">tel +1 970 682 1922</div>
<div class="">mob +1 970 214 9467</div>
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<div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ssimmons@opengeospatial.org" class="">ssimmons@opengeospatial.org</a></div>
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<div class="">The OGC: Making Location
Count…</div>
<div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/" class="">www.opengeospatial.org</a></div>
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<div class="">On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:08
AM, Cameron Shorter <<a
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<div class="">The OGC Technical
Committee technical meeting started
today, and I had the great pleasure
in meeting many people face-to-face,
whom I previously only knew by email
address, as well as catch up with
many I hadn't seen for years.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Of relevance to this thread was that
Scott Simmons presented on his hopes
to make OGC standards much more
readable and usable.<br class="">
<br class="">
Scott,<br class="">
As mentioned, I'm keen to see the
OGC documentation to dove-tail with
OSGeo-Live documentation.<br
class="">
In particular, I suggest that the
OGC might want to consider using a
similar development process to
OSGeo-Live, writing a template, then
inviting the community to help write
the documentation, then applying a
review cycle, then offering the docs
to be translated.<br class="">
<br class="">
Community building process is
described here:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html"
class="">http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Our documentation writing process is
here:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Docs here:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html">http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Presentation:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/">http://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
We are in the process of defining
what will be included for OSGeo-Live
9.5.<br class="">
Maybe for this release we can aim to
get one exemplar standard written
up, possibly more, which can then be
reviewed and refined for future
releases, and used as a template for
other standards.<br class="">
<br class="">
Warm regards,<br class="">
Cameron Shorter<br class="">
<br class="">
On 23/11/2015 6:18 am, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">We
are starting the build cycle for
version 9.5 of the OSGeo-Live [1]
DVD/USB/VM which will be released
in March 2016, ready for several
special events, including
FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg,
Austria), among others.<br
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<br class="">
We would like to hear from anyone
wishing to add new projects to
OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to
extend or add translations, or
anyone who has ideas on how we
should shape the upcoming release.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Key Milestones<br class="">
11 Jan 2016 All new applications
installed, most old applications
updated<br class="">
01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all
apps updated)<br class="">
15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test
(all apps installed and working)<br
class="">
21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to
printers<br class="">
<br class="">
About OSGeo-Live<br class="">
OSGeo-live is a Lubuntu based
distribution of Geospatial Open
Source Software, available via a
Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB.
You can use OSGeo-Live to try a
wide variety of open source
geospatial software without
installing anything.<br class="">
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-- <br class="">
Cameron Shorter,<br class="">
Software and Data Solutions Manager<br
class="">
LISAsoft<br class="">
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<br
class="">
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<br
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F +61 2 9009 5099<br class="">
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