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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Sergio,<br>
      <br>
      Thank you for updating the metrics page and for your contribution
      of Kosmo to the OSGeo-Live.<br>
      <br>
      I went through the links provided in the metrics page and I landed
      in Kosmo's home page.<br>
      I realized that we have been promoting Kosmo v3.1 through
      OSGeo-Live for some releases now, but actually this version was
      never released on your page. This is not a good open source
      practice, and reflects bad to both projects.<br>
      <br>
      You mentioned a 3.2 release coming soon, I hope to see that
      version officially released so we can consider adding Kosmo back
      to OSGeo-Live.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Angelos<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 06/06/2017 11:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:b674c111-bc8a-5047-12b8-21e253fedcb1@gmail.com">I'm
      looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to open
      up the opportunity to comment.
      <br>
      <br>
      Cameron
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron.
        <br>
        <br>
        Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for the
        delay, i had some problems to get them up to date):
        <br>
        <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop">https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop</a>
        <br>
        <br>
        Feel free to check and let me know if it's worth to let Kosmo
        Desktop form part of the OSGeo-LiveDVD.
        <br>
        <br>
        Regards,
        <br>
        <br>
        El 31/05/2017 a las 21:49, Cameron Shorter escribió:
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <br>
          Thanks Sergio for looking into this.
          <br>
          <br>
          We are open to being convinced that kosmo is still a project
          that should be on OSGeo-Live.
          <br>
          <br>
          Warm regards, Cameron
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          On 31/5/17 6:29 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">Good morning Cameron.
            <br>
            <br>
            Those are bad news :(...
            <br>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">* There is no version change of
              Kosmo for a number of releases.
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            We haven't increased the Kosmo Desktop number version due to
            internal reasons. The next OsGeo-LiveDVD would include the
            new 3.2 version.
            <br>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">* We don't have any OpenHub metrics
              for Kosmo to check community activity
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            I'm taking care of this, I'll warn you as soon as the
            openhub metrics are all completed so you can check the
            activity and could change the opinion about the project.
            <br>
            <br>
            Regards,
            <br>
            <br>
            El 27/05/2017 a las 21:50, Cameron Shorter escribió:
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <br>
              Hi Sergio,
              <br>
              <br>
              We have identified Kosmo as a candidate for retiring from
              OSGeo-Live. The reasons for considering this are:
              <br>
              <br>
              * There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of
              releases.
              <br>
              <br>
              * We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check
              community activity
              <br>
              <br>
              So the question we ask is "Should we recommend new users
              adopt Kosmo over equivalent Open Source GIS alternatives?"
              <br>
              <br>
              A good way to demonstrate that is by demonstrating an
              active community.
              <br>
              <br>
              I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this?
              <br>
              <br>
              Feel free to CC the OSGeo-Live list with your response if
              you like.
              <br>
              <br>
              Warm regards, Cameron
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 15/5/17 4:27 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Hi Astrid,
                <br>
                <br>
                I'll check and prepare the latest one to be added to the
                new version of OSGeo-Live.
                <br>
                <br>
                The Project Overview and Quickstart will be valid for
                the new one, but I'll check and add the newest
                functionalities (and some use cases) to both of them.
                <br>
                <br>
                Regards,
                <br>
                <br>
                El 09/05/2017 a las 21:09, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:astroidex@gmail.com">astroidex@gmail.com</a> escribió:
                <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">Hi Sergio,
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0,
                  due to be released at the end of July 2017, in time
                  for FOSS4G 2017 in August.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  We are interested to know which version of kosmo
                  should be installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Version 3.1 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June
                  2017!
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a
                  different person as contact person, which will update
                  your project.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
                  <br>
                  1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
                  <br>
                  2. Are there any new projects which should be on
                  OSGeo-Live?
                  <br>
                  3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from
                  OSGeo-Live?
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Do you think we should drop kosmo from OSGeo-Live?
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live
                  release we intend to focus on quality, and as such
                  will be asking each project:
                  <br>
                  1. To help install the latest stable version of the
                  software.
                  <br>
                  2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both
                  up to date and in line with our documentation
                  standards.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  You can see results of our first pass review in our
                  status spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and
                  column U "10.0 Doc Review".
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  [1]
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75</a>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  [2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Key Milestones
                  <br>
                  -------------------
                  <br>
                   15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be
                  installed on OSGeo-Live
                  <br>
                   22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications
                  complete
                  <br>
                    5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final
                  application versions installed)
                  <br>
                   19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final
                  application versions installed - Beta stage)
                  <br>
                   24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
                  <br>
                   14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  ... full schedule
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB</a><br>
                  <br>
                  We are waiting for your response concerning your
                  project kosmo. Any questions, please ask via the
                  OSGeo-Live mailing list (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org">live-demo@lists.osgeo.org</a>) or
                  directly.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Warm regards,
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Astrid
                  <br>
                  -- <br>
                  Astrid Emde
                  <br>
                  Charter Member
                  <br>
                  Open Source Geospatial Foundation
                  <br>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde</a>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                <br>
                -- <br>
                <br>
                Sergio Baños Calvo
                <br>
                <br>
                Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
                <br>
                Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG
                S.L.)
                <br>
                Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
                <br>
                Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
                <br>
                <br>
                E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a>
                <br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
              -- <br>
              Cameron Shorter
              <br>
              M +61 419 142 254
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            <br>
            Sergio Baños Calvo
            <br>
            <br>
            Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
            <br>
            Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
            <br>
            Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
            <br>
            Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
            <br>
            <br>
            E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a>
            <br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          -- <br>
          Cameron Shorter
          <br>
          M +61 419 142 254
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
        <br>
        -- <br>
        <br>
        Sergio Baños Calvo
        <br>
        <br>
        Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
        <br>
        Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
        <br>
        Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
        <br>
        Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
        <br>
        <br>
        E-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sbc@saig.es">sbc@saig.es</a>
        <br>
        <br>
      </blockquote>
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a></pre>
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