<div dir="ltr">Thanks Cameron, and by extension everyone here, I understand and support your reasoning. In this case I was just being a messenger from the marketing exercise.<div><br></div><div>The next phase for the website (content creation / migration) should be exciting, once I have a better understanding of what is involved I would like to join an osgeo-live IRC meeting (and draw on your experience in communicating with projects). I am also very excited by one of the features of the new website (choose-a-technology) and would like to see if we could adapt the idea for osgeo-live.</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 July 2017 at 12:23, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Re new OSGeo-Live Logo:<br>
    * I feel strongly that the OSGeo-Live logo should be derived from
    the OSGeo logo, but not be the same as the OSGeo logo.<br>
    * I feel it is important to say we are proud of our OSGeo roots and
    associations, but also acknowledge and celebrate our added
    uniqueness. We are a family within a larger community.<br>
    * I suspect you will find all OSGeo sub-projects feel similarly, and
    hence will want sub-brands.<br>
    * Hence I think [1] (proposal logo with heart) is better than [2].<br>
    * However, I think we can do better than [1]. With our shot
    timelines I would reluctantly accept [1] for next release, with
    intent to revisit later.<br>
    <br>
    I'd be interested to see if Brian Hamlin puts something together. He
    has an artistic flair and I've really liked  artwork he has created
    for prior OSGeo-Live releases.<br>
    <br>
    Re OSGeo Incubation:<br>
    * I've answered on the incubation list, but in short, I suggest we
    revisit the question after OSGeo-Live 11.0 release.<span class=""><br>
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    <div class="m_4361006909452302310moz-cite-prefix">On 7/7/17 1:54 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><span class="">Okay reporting back with ... a conversation. The
        graphics designer is now off on holiday (actually honeymoon) but
        we got a lot done in the last two weeks since I have spoken with
        you. The priority was obviously the website and stuff for
        printing.
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          <div><span class="">For my last updated I tried to adapt the new branding
            elements and keep the heart shape:
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            </span><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B022m344wU7hV0dUaU1ZdkFoM28" target="_blank">[1]
                https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=<wbr>0B022m344wU7hV0dUaU1ZdkFoM28</a> <br>
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                <div>I did however manage to force the issue of
                  subbrands; but doing up printing materials including
                  the geoforall and osgeo-live logo. You can check the
                  meeting notes for the result ....<br>
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                      <li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent">Review of OSGeo Live branding history</span><br>
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                        <li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline">
                          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Discussion on relationship between projects and osgeo</span></p>
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                        <li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline">
                          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We have an answer about “Live” - it is a live demonstration of software, rather than a static demo.</span></p>
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                        <li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline">
                          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We have a strong relationship and we could ask OSGeo Live to use the OSGeo logo unaltered, however that does not answer the general problem  (of how to work with sub brands)</span></p>
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                <div>You may remember me asking what 'live" was meaning
                  for osgeo live, judging from early art assets in
                  github (the svn banner had hidden early prototypes of
                  the logo). The thinking was "pulse" with hearts and
                  heart rate monitors tracking which projects were
                  actually alive. The other meaning I could come up with
                  was a live demo, rather than a static demo.</div>
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                <div>Both Marc (strong marketing background) and the
                  graphics designer (really proud of the new logo and
                  visuals). They wanted to ask if OSGeo Live would be
                  willing to use the following:</div>
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                </span><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B08AjQ2hqLipZjJsSG12a19HcWM" target="_blank">[2]
                    https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=<wbr>0B08AjQ2hqLipZjJsSG12a19HcWM</a><br>
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                <div>This is an interesting tradeoff:</div>
                <div>- because no other software project is being asked
                  to update their logo (only include an OSGeo project
                  logo on their website). </div>
                <div>- the tight relationship with OSGeo foundation is
                  causing this request, so a mark at how central
                  osgeo-live is to our foundation<br>
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                <div>- I will support whatever direction the project
                  chooses to take (hesitate to offer my own opinion
                  since I can see advantages both ways).</div>
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                <div>I have also had this question come up recently -
                  why is OSGeo-Live not an OSGeo project. The answer is
                  simply that you have not asked and acquired a mentor. </div>
                <div>- You are of course welcome to apply as an OSGeo
                  Community project (and get approval right away -
                  summer voting habits permitting)</div>
                <div>- Entering incubation can also be done, but we need
                  to line up a mentor first.</div>
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                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 June 2017 at 08:41, Jody Garnett
          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Wanted to provide a small update, I got some
              public and private feedback on the branding which I took
              into this weeks meeting.
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              <div>Many of the direct "osgeo foundation" activities just
                use the normal OSGeo Mark, we have the examples of
                "OSGeo Project", "OSGeo Community" as used by projects
                ready to go.<br>
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              <div>A few sub brands (GeoForAll, OSGeo Live, local
                chapters) are expected to work with the design elements
                and create their own mark. We have asked the designer to
                use OSGeo Live as an example, this was the best I could
                do without stepping out of contract :)</div>
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              <div>I checked the EOI and we have not paid for a sphinx
                theme. We will have to wait for the website to take
                shape and adapt later in the year.  Colors, logos and
                fonts we can do earlier.</div>
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                          <div>--</div>
                          <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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