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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
<br>
JRE should not be included in the package, since we already
provide it at the OS level. That would save several MBs.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
On 07/08/2017 03:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:988c2486-4797-2f93-d2b7-ac9bf9f9c189@gmail.com">Hi
Thorsten,
<br>
<br>
Great to hear your interest to get involved in OSGeo-Live. Re
questions:
<br>
<br>
1. You have missed the deadline to be included on OSGeo-Live 11.0.
The following release will be scheduled for next year.
<br>
<br>
2. Yes, we strongly prefer a .deb file for installation. What is
involved in adding a project to OSGeo-Live is described here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive</a><br>
<br>
Cheers, Cameron
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7/7/17 11:32 pm, Thorsten Reitz wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
Hi all,
<br>
<br>
in two weeks, many of us will be in Marne la Vallee and we could
meet briefly to pick up the discussion on including hale studio
in OSGeolive again.
<br>
<br>
A couple of questions:
<br>
<br>
* What is the deadline to include halestudio in stealth mode
in the
<br>
next release?
<br>
* As far as I understood, we need to provide an installation
script
<br>
or an installer package - I seem to remember you wanted to
have a
<br>
*.deb?
<br>
* The actual software package with JRE (e.g. as DMG) is about
170MB
<br>
big. We can't really remove a lot from that - the included
sample
<br>
data is only about 1MB.
<br>
<br>
All the best,
<br>
<br>
Thorsten
<br>
<br>
Am 16.05.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Dirk Frigne:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Cameron,
<br>
<br>
Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
<br>
Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan
to setup
<br>
a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
<br>
There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.
<br>
<br>
If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could
motivate the
<br>
community to give feedabck.
<br>
<br>
The other point I want to address is to reach out to the
dataproviders,
<br>
to become involved with the OSGeolive project.
<br>
<br>
As we descussed last month, we should try to find more
volunteers to
<br>
support the project and become involved in some testing. By
addressing
<br>
the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase
their data
<br>
with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.
<br>
<br>
<br>
All the best,
<br>
Dirk
<br>
<br>
On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Dirk,
<br>
<br>
Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a
very strong
<br>
candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.
<br>
<br>
Whether we have time to get it included in time for
OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
<br>
questionable.
<br>
<br>
For prior projects we have often taken two releases to
onboard the
<br>
project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in
stealth mode.
<br>
(It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main
docs, so new
<br>
users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to
do QA.
<br>
<br>
I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live
folks. I'd
<br>
especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with
Halestudio
<br>
to hear their thoughts.
<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hello,
<br>
<br>
Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate
to be included
<br>
on the next OSGeoLive release.
<br>
Below you can find the answers to the application
questions as described
<br>
on the wiki page.
<br>
<br>
Kind regards,
<br>
<br>
<br>
Please describe your application:
<br>
<br>
What is its name? hale studio
<br>
What is the home page URL?
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/">https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/</a>
<br>
Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU
Lesser General
<br>
Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
<br>
What does the application do and how does it add
value to the
<br>
Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to
transform and
<br>
harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex
data sets. Set up
<br>
reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily
by defining
<br>
schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the
data
<br>
transformation process and its impact on data quality.
<br>
Does the application make use of OGC standards?
Which versions of
<br>
the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add
comments about how
<br>
standards are used.
<br>
Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
<br>
WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support
for WFS
<br>
Transactions
<br>
WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
<br>
Simple Features SQL
<br>
JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
<br>
GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
<br>
What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
<br>
Which version of the application should be included
in the next
<br>
OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0
<br>
<br>
Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new
user finds a
<br>
bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of
all other
<br>
OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to
the following
<br>
answers):
<br>
<br>
If risk adverse organisations have deployed your
application into
<br>
production, it would imply that these organisations have
verified the
<br>
stability of your software. Has the application been
rolled out to
<br>
production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
Please
<br>
mention some of these organisations
<br>
State of Hamburg (Germany)
<br>
State of Bavaria (Germany)
<br>
State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
<br>
Institute of Forest Management of
Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
<br>
Armed Forces (Germany)
<br>
SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
<br>
GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities
in Germany)
<br>
Prisma Solutions (Austria)
<br>
IGP (Portugal)
<br>
IRCELINE (Belgium)
<br>
HL Consulting (Belgium)
<br>
Statkart (Norway)
<br>
European Environmental Agency (Denmark)
<br>
<br>
Most of these organisations sponsor continued development
of the
<br>
software through support contracts.
<br>
<br>
Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health
of a project.
<br>
E.g.:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html">http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html</a> Could
<br>
you please ensure that your project is registered with
Open HUB, and
<br>
Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code
repository(s)
<br>
for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your
project?
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openhub.net/p/halestudio">https://www.openhub.net/p/halestudio</a>
<br>
What is the size of the user community? You can
often answer this by
<br>
mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email
list?
<br>
Downloads per year: 4.000 to 5.000
<br>
Posts on the forum per year: 80 to 100
<br>
What is the size of your developer community?
<br>
At wetransform: 3 FTE
<br>
Outside wetransform: 2-3 major contributions per
year, e.g.
<br>
SQLite reader, Geoserver app-schema integration
<br>
Do you have a bug free, stable release?
<br>
There are stable releases for production usage
available since
<br>
release 2.0.1 (2010). A release history is available
through GitHub:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/halestudio/hale/releases">https://github.com/halestudio/hale/releases</a>
<br>
The latest release is 3.2.0, with version 3.3.0
being released
<br>
this week (19.05.2017)
<br>
Please discuss the level of testing that your
project has gone
<br>
through.
<br>
hale studio's alignment creation and
transformation capabilities
<br>
have been thoroughly tested in a multitude of data
transformation
<br>
projects both by its developers as well as its open source
user
<br>
community.
<br>
Furthermore, continuous integration tests are
performed by our
<br>
build infrastructure athttps://builds.wetransform.to on
every commit to
<br>
the master branch. The integration test suite is
continuously extended
<br>
with every new feature or problem report. We publish
detailed test
<br>
reports using Allure.
<br>
Every release candidate of hale studio undergoes
additional
<br>
manual/explorative testing.
<br>
How long has the project has had mature code?
<br>
Version 1.0 of hale studio was released in
December 2009. Since
<br>
the release of version 2.0.1 in 2010, the code base can be
regarded
<br>
mature.
<br>
OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people
can use rather
<br>
than libraries. Does the application have a user interface
(possibly a
<br>
command line interface) that a user can interact with? (We
do make an
<br>
exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include
Project
<br>
Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a
user interface.)
<br>
hale studio has a graphical user interface to
create
<br>
transformation projects and perform data transformations.
<br>
With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live,
us core
<br>
packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single
project email
<br>
list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a
volunteer (or two) to
<br>
take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and
the project's
<br>
communities. This volunteer will be responsible for
ensuring the install
<br>
scripts and English documentation are updated by someone
for each
<br>
OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed
application and
<br>
Quickstart documentation works as expected on release
candidate releases
<br>
of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison
person?
<br>
Simon Templer (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:st@wetransform.to">st@wetransform.to</a>)
<br>
Florian Esser (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fe@wetransform.to">fe@wetransform.to</a>) as backup
<br>
OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
preference is:
<br>
1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
<br>
2. Install .deb files from a PPA
<br>
3. Write a custom install script
<br>
<br>
Can you please discuss how your application will be
installed? A custom
<br>
installation script will be used to extract the
application archive at
<br>
the appropriate location and create an application
launcher.
<br>
<br>
OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the
application run
<br>
in 512 Meg of RAM?
<br>
Yes, though we recommend 1 GB or more. Very
large/complex
<br>
transformation projects will benefit from 2GB+.
<br>
How much disk space will be required to install the
application and
<br>
a suitable example application?
<br>
~380 MiB including example data sets and Java
runtime
<br>
We aim to reduce disk space by having all
applications make use of a
<br>
common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of
the example
<br>
datasets already installed:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets</a> If
<br>
another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss
here. Is it
<br>
appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may
already be
<br>
included in the standard release.
<br>
In the standard release, some demo datasets are
included. These
<br>
may be removed for the installation on the OSGeo Live DVD.
The default
<br>
‘Natural Earth’ dataset could be used to illustrate the
potential of the
<br>
application as an ETL tool with respect to INSPIRE and
complex schemas.
<br>
However, this would be better illustrated by providing a
more
<br>
specialized INSPIRE dataset.
<br>
Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project
Overview available
<br>
under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA
license. (You
<br>
may release under a second license as well). Will you
produce this?
<br>
Yes. Both the Project Overview and Quickstart
will be created
<br>
based on the existing project documentation, help and
demos.
<br>
In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
installers for
<br>
some applications. It is likely we won't have space for
these in future
<br>
releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing
to include
<br>
Windows and/or Mac installers?
<br>
Both Windows and Mac installers exist for the
project.
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<br>
-- <br>
Thorsten Reitz
<br>
Founder
<br>
<br>
E-Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tr@wetransform.to">tr@wetransform.to</a>
<br>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.wetransform.to">www.wetransform.to</a>
<br>
Phone: +49 179 59 08 203
<br>
<br>
wetransform GmbH
<br>
Fraunhoferstr. 5
<br>
64283 Darmstadt
<br>
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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