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<p>Nicolas,</p>
<p>Re "more senior than me": Yes, I have been around for longer. I
might even have more experience. But:</p>
<p>1. For a community to be robust, it shouldn't have a single point
of failure, or be dependent on one person (or a small team) who
become overworked.</p>
<p>2. A robust community has worked out how to bring new people into
the fold, and help them become as productive as they wish to be.
This means having a supportive, encouraging culture.</p>
<p>3. We are a Do-ocracy.</p>
<p>4. We will be stronger, and look stronger from externally if we
demonstrate multiple people of influence.</p>
<p>5. I'm capped out with my volunteer time, and am wanting to start
tackling another bold initiative (without ignoring my
responsibilities to OSGeo-Live). [1] <br>
</p>
<p>6. I've been continually impressed with OSGeo-Live initiatives
you and other recent people have been taking on, and am very
encouraging and hopeful you will continue and get as much out of
OSGeo-Live as I have in the past.</p>
<p>7. Super-chickens: [2]<br>
</p>
[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krgA5ezksF6RjlKKUFnBzhqa87EwqnJOEa9HsRFg85Q/edit#heading=h.dlrann1ydgi6">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krgA5ezksF6RjlKKUFnBzhqa87EwqnJOEa9HsRFg85Q/edit#heading=h.dlrann1ydgi6</a><br>
[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_why_it_s_time_to_forget_the_pecking_order_at_work">https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_why_it_s_time_to_forget_the_pecking_order_at_work</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/17 5:42 pm, Nicolas Roelandt
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Cameron,<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Sorry i was offline, yesterday.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I think we can release it that way. It is the point of
being reviewed, and you are more senior than me.<br>
</div>
<div>I think we should wait for the website to be updated,
unfortunatly we are behind schedule.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>It makes a lot to discuss on monday :)<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Nicolas<br>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-03 22:39 GMT+02:00 Cameron
Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<p>Hi Nicholas,</p>
<p>Comments inline. Feel free to make updates to the press
release as you see fit.<br>
</p>
<span class=""> <br>
<div class="m_5109150759112065948moz-cite-prefix">On
3/8/17 9:36 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:<br>
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</span><span class="">
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<div dir="auto">Cameron,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I simply copy-past the previous one
and updated the data.</div>
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</blockquote>
</span> Yes, that is what we usually do, I suggest have a
quick look at the 10.0 press release.<span class=""><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I'm ok with the short introduction,
because I had the idea but not the words to
explain what we did. Thanks for that.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I let the software versions because
I think it is interessing to know. Like "I use
the same version of that, ok. Oh, there is a major
version of this, let's look at that."</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I understand the all or nothing in
that case. So I'm more for the all.</div>
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</span> I'm ok with that. So either include versions of
all packages on OSGeo-Live, or none, or just those that
have changed, or select out just those that have major
changes (as was done in the 10.0 release). (You had a
subset of packages is listed.) <span class="">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">About dropped projects, we should
have a word about that since people might read
only news about releases.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span> I've added a mention that we have removed some
projects, but have not identified them by name. My
reasoning is that it may be seen as a bit painful for the
communities being retired from OSGeo-Live, and it is
respectful to not emphasis this.<br>
However, I'm ok to be over-ruled.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Nicolas</div>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 3 août 2017 13:05,
"Cameron Shorter" <<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Thanks Nicolas,</p>
<p>I've reviewed the press release and
made a few minor changes. A couple of
formatting/syntax issues, I don't think
we need to call out the specific
projects we have dropped, and I've
copied a few words "about this release"
from the presentation.</p>
<p>I notice that the list of applications
was incomplete, and I don't think
listing the applications adds much
value, so I've dropped that.<br>
</p>
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3/8/17 2:46 pm, Nicolas Roelandt
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi all,<br>
<br>
</div>
I'm writing the press release
for the 11.0 release and the
errata page. Please feel free
to review and edit them:<br>
<br>
Press release:<br>
<a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Li<wbr>ve_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79</a><br>
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Errata page:<br>
<a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Li<wbr>ve_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0</a><br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
Nicolas<br>
<div>
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12:40 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank"
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<p>Thanks Nicolas, I'm happy
to review when you are done.<br>
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2/8/17 6:22 pm, Nicolas
Roelandt wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I can
work on the press
release this
evening.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Nicolas</div>
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<div
class="gmail_quote">Le 2
août 2017 09:35,
"Angelos Tzotsos"
<<a
href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Since there
was a week of
testing
without a
blocker issue
being
reported, on
the weekly
meeting we
decided to
rename rc1 as
final.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here are
the pending
tasks for the
11.0 release:</div>
<div>1. Rename
the release
files (done)</div>
<div>2. Create
the VM version
(done)</div>
<div>3. Upload
the release
files on
Sourceforge
(Angelos - in
progress)</div>
<div>4. Update
the web site
to 11.0</div>
<div>5. Send out
a press
release</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We need
volunteers to
pick up items
4 and 5.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Angelos<br
clear="all">
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