<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here is my response and bellow its "the Oracle" response<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I didn't imply that it was a problem, I made the experiment, and it took me around 1/2 day to finish my experiment, and most of our pages are the press releases: <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Live-demo">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Live-demo</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think that more than 50% I moved already to trac (with a lot of links fixed, and many more to fix, when everything that is ours goes there)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The Code is on: OSGeoLive repo not on OSGeoLive-doc repo<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So, we have to repos, then 2 wikis? I don't like that idea.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I prefer one trac wiki that covers both repos.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I find this annoying on Github wiki: you can't add images directly to the wiki, I normally use issues to add the image and then put it in the wiki.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This also is annoying: its so narrow.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I compare the "looks" of pgRouting wiki with PostGIS wiki and I like postGIS wiki more.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki">https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/pgRouting/pgRoutingLayer/wiki">https://github.com/pgRouting/pgRoutingLayer/wiki</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In any case for GitHub wiki.. probably the need to change the mediawiki to the wiki stylecan be skipped (bakaniko copied/pasted from github wiki to media wiki and had to change format)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And the copy/paste still is needed (unless someone knows how to do it automatically)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Links have to be fixed, because the implicit links will no longer apply.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here is the "Oracle responding" ;)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"I see in Vicky's future going to SAC channel and asking about a mediawiki of our own"<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm not so keen on the Trac wiki. I agree is it good to have the
wiki next to other information about the project, but as I notice
from Vicky's comments, it seems translating to the Trac wiki format
is a problem.<br>
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Another logical place to put the wiki would be next to the code, on
github. Doing a 5 minute search I found this page:
<a class="m_2015374857730881124moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://guides.github.com/features/wikis/" target="_blank">https://guides.github.com/<wbr>features/wikis/</a><br>
It describes how you can use a github wiki, and make use of a wide
range of wiki formats which I assume would include the mediawiki
format we currently use. I'd suspect if we googled further we'd find
an import tool as well.<br>
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So I'd like to consult "the Oracle", ie "the Vicky" (and others) to
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<div class="m_2015374857730881124moz-cite-prefix">On 28/11/17 10:55 am, Vicky Vergara
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Sorry that I
cold not be in the meeting today, I had a presentation to a
group of students in a University in Mexico at the time of the
meeting. <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">About his
presentation I used OSgeoLive project as follows:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In front of the
students I talked about how PSC members have to approve PR
regardless if the PR is from a casual contributor or a
volunteer or from other PSC member, emphasising in that it is
important for keeping a high quality in the FOSS project. For
this I used this PR as an example:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/348" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/<wbr>OSGeoLive-doc/pull/348</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">About the
meeting:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I noticed that
the meeting main part was about using OSGeoLive trac's wiki or
to have our own wikimedia</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In any case I
started experimenting on the trac's wiki and "moved" some
mediawiki pages to the trac's wiki.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Note that I
consider this as an experiment so:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- OSGeo
mediawiki I did not touch</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- I made
copy/paste (no date preservation)<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- darkblue-b
started categorizing OSGeo wiki pages so that we can find the
pages that belong to our project</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here are the
pages on trac's wiki that I experimented on<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In this one:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Use_History" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/wiki/Use_History</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">comers from
this one:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<wbr>Live_GIS_History</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I successfully
changed the links of the contact names by adding an
"osgeowiki" entry here:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/InterMapTxt" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/wiki/InterMapTxt</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In this one:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%20List" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/wiki/Press%<wbr>20Release%20List</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">only has the
press releases of this section<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<wbr>Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This other ones
has blog entries that are mixed up on the press releases</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Blogs" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/<wbr>osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Blogs</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Besides adding
manually by copy paste all the press releases, so no dates are
preserved, if you know how to do it preserving dates please be
my guest on teaching me, took me one day to copy and reformat
to the trac's wiki mark up language</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I first added
this year's press releases, but after that I started adding
from the first press release. (kind of simulating the date
preservation by adding the first one before the second one and
so on)</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">On some press
releases I tried to fix some links, but some are broken. So I
just thought I wont bother to fix links yet, because this is
an experiment.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A small
clarification:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I didn’t say I
want pgRouting wiki pages on OSGeo wiki, I said: <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">01:17:20cvvergara:Sorry,
so you are implying that for example: I shall put pgRouting
wiki pages on OSGeo wiki because then I can get more visitors?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-11-26.log" target="_blank">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/<wbr>osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-<wbr>11-26.log</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Fortunately, as
a project, pgRouting has its own wiki, unfortunately right now
OSGeoLive don't have it's own wiki. we use OSGeo wiki but we
don’t have our own.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I apologize
because I was not around in the meeting to clarify and write
up my concerns.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am there now,
if you want to ask things.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">PS I love
bencaradocdavies because of this comment :) :) :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">19:59:47bencaradocdavies:<wbr>darkblue_b,
I do not think we have a quorum, and more importantly, we do
not have a Vicky.</div>
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<pre>Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl
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Operations Research
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