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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hallo zusammen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">vielen Dank für eure Hinweise und Tipps!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In Verbindung mit normalen PostGIS-Layern funktioniert pg_service bei uns.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Wie geht ihr mit ALKIS-Daten um?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bei lokalen Projekten werden diese bei uns mit dem norGIS ALKIS Import mit den vollständigen Zugangsdaten zum Server / der Datenbank eingebunden.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Beim Versuch diese nur mit Angabe des „Service“ einzubinden scheitern wir allerdings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Welche Konfigurationsangaben tragt ihr hier ein?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Vielen Dank und Grüße<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Lizmap-de <lizmap-de-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> <b>
Im Auftrag von </b>Günter Wagner via Lizmap-de<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 4. April 2024 18:00<br>
<b>An:</b> 'Petert Berger' <peter.berger@bluewin.ch>; 'Jörg Thomsen' <joerg.thomsen@wheregroup.com>; lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Lizmap-de] Erfahrung mit pg_service.conf oder auch .pg_service.conf Konfiguration für Zugang zu Postgresdaten<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hallo zusammen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Danke Peter, für Deinen Erfahrungsbericht und vielen Dank an die Anderen für die Infos und Hinweise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ich werde das hoffentlich nächste Woche mal testen können. Bin gespannt und gebe Rückmeldung.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Viele Grüße<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Günter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Lizmap-de <lizmap-de-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> <b>
Im Auftrag von </b>Petert Berger via Lizmap-de<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 4. April 2024 14:07<br>
<b>An:</b> 'Jörg Thomsen' <joerg.thomsen@wheregroup.com>; lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Lizmap-de] Erfahrung mit pg_service.conf oder auch .pg_service.conf Konfiguration für Zugang zu Postgresdaten<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hallo zusammen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ich möchte euch noch gerne meine Erfahrungen mit dem der pg_service.conf teilen. Dabei beziehe ich mich auf Linux. Es ist nämlich etwas tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Offiziell findet man in der Postgres-Dokumentation dies:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">The Connection Service File <o:p></o:p></span></h2>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">The connection service file allows libpq connection parameters to be associated with a single service name. That service name can then be specified in a libpq connection string, and
the associated settings will be used. This allows connection parameters to be modified without requiring a recompile of the libpq-using application. The service name can also be specified using the </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">PGSERVICE</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif"> environment
variable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0cm"><a name="id-1.7.3.24.2"></a><a name="id-1.7.3.24.3"></a><a name="id-1.7.3.24.4"></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Service names can be defined in either a per-user service file or a system-wide
file. If the same service name exists in both the user and the system file, the user file takes precedence. By default, the per-user service file is named </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">~/.pg_service.conf</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">.
On Microsoft Windows, it is named </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">%APPDATA%\postgresql\.pg_service.conf</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">(where </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">%APPDATA%</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif"> refers
to the Application Data subdirectory in the user's profile). A different file name can be specified by setting the environment variable </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">PGSERVICEFILE</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">.
The system-wide file is named </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">pg_service.conf</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">. By default it is sought in the </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">etc</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif"> directory
of the <span class="productname">PostgreSQL</span> installation (use </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">pg_config --sysconfdir</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif"> to identify this
directory precisely). Another directory, but not a different file name, can be specified by setting the environment variable </span><code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt">PGSYSCONFDIR</span></code><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Meine Erfahrungen:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Zuerst habe ich mir in der User
<span style="background:lime;mso-highlight:lime">HOME-Verzeichnis ein </span></span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt;background:lime;mso-highlight:lime">~/.pg_service.conf</span></code><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt">
</span></code><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">File angelegt. Dann hat es in QGIS funktioniert. In QGIS muss man dann eigentlich in den PostgeSQL-Settings nur den Service eintragen und es funktioniert.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dann habe ich Lizmap geöffnet und da meckert Lizmap bei den Checks.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Nach Abschalten in den Services,
</span><span lang="EN-US">«Prevent PostgresSQL layers from using a service file» waren die Checks OK. (Komischer Check!)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="DE-CH">Im Web war dann der Postgres-Layer wiederum nicht zu sehen. Hmm.. Dann die Erleuchtung, dass der QGIS-Server ja nicht als gleicher User läuft und somit er das
</span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt">~/.pg_service.conf File </span>
</code><span lang="DE-CH">im Verzeichnis des anderen User nicht sieht. Also müsste ich das File an mehreren Ort haben. Nicht praktikabel!<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="DE-CH">Ich habe dann entschieden, dass ich das Ganze systemweit verfügbar mache indem ich
</span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt">pg_config –sysconfdir </span>
</code><span lang="DE-CH">aufrufe. Da kommt dies raus</span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt"> /etc/postgresql-common</span></code><span lang="DE-CH">. Nun habe ich das File
</span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt">~/.pg_service.conf </span>
</code><span lang="DE-CH">in diesen Ordner kopiert. Funktionierte nicht! Hmm… Aha, das File hat dort einen anderen Namen nicht
</span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt;background:red;mso-highlight:red">~/.pg_service.conf</span></code><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt">
</span></code><span lang="DE-CH">sondern </span><code><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt;background:lime;mso-highlight:lime">~/pg_service.conf</span></code><span lang="DE-CH">. Also ohne führenden Punkt. Nun hat es funktioniert!</span><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="DE-CH">Man kann den Bezug auf das File auch in der Environment Variable PGSERVICEFILE definieren. Ob das funktioniert habe ich bis jetzt nicht ausprobiert. Hat jemand Erfahrung
damit?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Etwas mühsam ist dies jedoch, wenn man ein QGIS-File auf einem System ohne Postgreszugang aufruft. Dann funktionieren die Postgres-Layer nicht.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Gruss, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Lizmap-de <<a href="mailto:lizmap-de-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">lizmap-de-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Peter Berger via Lizmap-de<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 28. März 2024 14:53<br>
<b>An:</b> Jörg Thomsen <<a href="mailto:joerg.thomsen@wheregroup.com">joerg.thomsen@wheregroup.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org">lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Lizmap-de] Lizmap Rechte für Postgres-Layer direkt in das QGIS-File einbinden<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Hallo Jörg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Vielen Dank für deinen Beitrag. Wir haben also diese Möglichkeiten: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Die Credentials in ein dezidiertes File einzubinden, pg_service.conf.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">In ein QGIS-File händisch pro Layer einzutragen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Und via QGIS in einer Konfiguration einzutragen. Dies funktioniert bei mir jedoch nicht! Sollte doch? Hat QGIS, mindestens bei den 3.34.x Versionen einen Bug?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Wie immer, das mit dem pg_service.conf funktioniert. Ich werde in Zukunft diesen Weg gehen. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Liebe Grüsse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="DE-CH">Am 28.03.2024 um 08:42 schrieb Jörg Thomsen via Lizmap-de <<a href="mailto:lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org">lizmap-de@lists.osgeo.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Moin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">ein Zwischenruf von der Seite.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="DE-CH">> Da ist zwar noch ein weiteres File dabei, ich hab aber nie rausgefunden, wofür das ist.
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<p><span lang="DE-CH"><a href="https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/de/docs/user_manual/appendices/qgis_file_formats.html">https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/de/docs/user_manual/appendices/qgis_file_formats.html</a> -><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040;background:#FCFCFC">Die <strong><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif">QGD</span></strong>-Datei ist die zugehörige Sqlite-Datenbank des qgis-Projekts,
die Hilfsdaten für das Projekt enthält. </span><span lang="DE-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH">Für postgis schick in in den nächsten Tagen nochmal was. Wir haben das bei uns immer mit einem service definitions file gelöst.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="DE-CH"><a href="https://wheregroup.com/blog/details/einfache-verbindung-von-postgresql-postgis-datenbanken-mit-qgis-mittels-mit-pg-serviceconf/">https://wheregroup.com/blog/details/einfache-verbindung-von-postgresql-postgis-datenbanken-mit-qgis-mittels-mit-pg-serviceconf/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE-CH">Viele Grüße, Jörg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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