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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244114620-01112006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Me too</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244114620-01112006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Is there a behaviour associated with install/uninstall on
unix? Maybe adding the appropriate rc start and stop files (showing
my lack of recent unix experience)? Or is this
Windows-only?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244114620-01112006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Jason</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Bruce Dechant
[mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 01,
2006 12:45<BR><B>To:</B> dev@mapguide.osgeo.org;
psc@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc]
MapGuide's 1st RFC!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Traian Stanev</st1:PersonName> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> October 31, 2006 8:51 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> dev@mapguide.osgeo.org; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName>;
dev@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st
RFC!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Or, you can drop the - and / altogether and have
something like:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">mgserver start<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">mgserver stop<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">mgserver run<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This would be similar to the apache command
line, the subversion command line client, the ifconfig tool on Linux, the net
command on Windows, etc., etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Traian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message----- <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tom Fukushima <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue 10/31/2006 10:22 PM
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName>; dev@mapguide.osgeo.org
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [mapguide-dev] RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes, I would like to see both formats ("/" and "-")
supported as well.<BR><BR>But when the user gets the command line help by
typing "mgserver -?" or<BR>"mgserver --help" (note the double dash), I propose
that we only show<BR>the "-" versions of the options. Of course, this is
a bit confusing to<BR>those users who want to figure out what /interactive
means; Bruce, why<BR>are we changing "interactive" to "run"? Or will
"mgserver -interactive"<BR>also work?<BR><BR><BR>So typing "mgserver --help"
outputs:<BR><BR>The following is a list of supported command line
options:<BR><BR> -? or --help<BR> Displays
this information.<BR><BR> -install
<Name><BR> Installs the server as a
service. Automatically starts
the<BR>service.<BR><BR> Default service display
name installed:<BR> "MapGuide
Server"<BR><BR> You can use a different display
name for the service if you<BR>specify an<BR>
optional "Name".<BR><BR> -run<BR> Runs the
server interactively as an application instead of a<BR>service.<BR><BR>
-start<BR> Starts the server service. Note: The
service must be installed.<BR><BR>
-stop<BR> Stops the server service. Note: The
service must be installed.<BR><BR> -testfdo
<Filename><BR> Runs the FDO unit
tests.<BR><BR> Default output of the FDO unit
tests will be the console unless<BR>you<BR>
specify an optional "Filename". The output to the "Filename"
will<BR>be<BR> in XML.<BR><BR> -test
<Test> /o <Filename><BR> Runs the
server unit tests.<BR><BR> By default all of the
unit tests will be run unless you specify an<BR>
optional "Test" to run. If you specify "List" as the test to
run<BR>you<BR> will get a list of the available
unit tests.<BR><BR> Default output of the unit
tests will be the console unless
you<BR>specify<BR> an optional "Filename". The
output to the "Filename" will be in<BR>XML.<BR><BR>
-uninstall<BR> Uninstalls an installed server
service. Automatically stops the<BR>service<BR>
before uninstalling.<BR><BR><BR>Note: Only 1 command line option can be used
at a time.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Bruce
Dechant<BR>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:49 PM<BR>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR>Subject: RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<BR><BR>I will be easy enough to support
both. I'll update the RFC to
reflect<BR>this.<BR><BR>Bruce<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Andy
Morsell [<A
href="mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com">mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com</A>]<BR>Sent:
October 31, 2006 12:42 PM<BR>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR>Subject: RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<BR><BR>I agree, it's probably not a big
issue. It depends on how much work it<BR>would be on Bruce's end to
support backwards compatibility. If it would<BR>be relatively easy, then
may as well do it. If it would require a large<BR>effort, then the
current console response to an incorrect parameter<BR>should be sufficient for
users to figure it out on their own.<BR><BR><BR>Andy<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Paul Spencer</st1:PersonName>
[<A
href="mailto:pspencer@dmsolutions.ca">mailto:pspencer@dmsolutions.ca</A>]<BR>Sent:
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:29 AM<BR>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR>Subject: Re:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<BR><BR>I am normally a big fan of backwards
compatibility too, but I really<BR>don't see this as a big issue.
Perhaps if the tool just spits out an<BR>appropriate message if called with
incorrect parameters?<BR><BR>Then again, windows users are most likely used to
the / style of adding<BR>parameters so perhaps that makes it worthwhile
supporting both?<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 31-Oct-06, at 2:08 PM, Andy Morsell
wrote:<BR><BR>> I agree with Frank in that keeping it backwards compatible
with the<BR>> older command line parameters while in the future only
documenting the<BR><BR>> new ones would be the best. There are many
references, mostly in<BR>> archived messages in the mapguide-users mailing
list, to the current<BR>> parameter syntax that new users are bound to run
across (and try to<BR>> use) when doing research.<BR>><BR>> Regarding
the RFC format, that seems to work very well.<BR>><BR>>
Andy<BR>><BR>> From: Bruce Dechant [<A
href="mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com">mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com</A>]<BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:20 AM<BR>> To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR>> Subject:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<BR>><BR>> Hi
All,<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I wrote up a simple MapGuide RFC to give
our process a trial run.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MG_RFC_1_-">http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MG_RFC_1_-</A><BR>>
_Commandline_parameter_changes<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Please have a
look and post any feedback.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Thanks,<BR>><BR>>
Bruce<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+<BR>|<st1:PersonName
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