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Done. Can you post a message to that affect on the -users list?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Bob<br>
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Jason Birch wrote:
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="547543020-25012007"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Yes, looks good.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="547543020-25012007"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hey Bob, could you turn off
reply-to-poster on the -users list? It's really giving us fragmented
conversations...</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="547543020-25012007"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Do we need a motion for this?</font></span></div>
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color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Jason</font></span></div>
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<hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Trevor
Wekel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:26<br>
<b>To:</b> MapGuide Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [mapguide-internals] PSC: Contributor Agreements<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="417592520-25012007"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Bob, </font></span><span
class="417592520-25012007"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Yep.
Much better.</font></span></div>
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color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Trevor</font></span></div>
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<hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert
Bray<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> MapGuide Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [mapguide-internals] PSC: Contributor Agreements<br>
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Here is Jennifer's proposed re-wording of item 3.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left: 27pt; text-indent: -27pt; text-align: justify;"><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt;">3. <span> </span><u>Grant of Patent
License</u>. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, You
hereby grant to the Foundation and to recipients of software
distributed by the Foundation a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive,
fully-paid, royalty-free, irrevocable (except as stated in this
section) patent license to have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import,
and otherwise transfer the Work, where such license applies only to
those patent claims licensable by You that are necessarily infringed by
Your Contribution(s) alone or by combination of Your Contribution(s)
with the Work to which such Contribution(s) were submitted, as such
Work existed as of the date of your Contribution(s). This patent
license shall not apply to any other combinations which include the
Contribution(s). If any entity (a “Litigant”) institutes patent
litigation against You or any other entity (including a cross-claim or
counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that your Contribution, or the Work
to which you have contributed, constitutes direct or contributory
patent infringement, then any patent licenses granted to that Litigant
under this Agreement for that Contribution or Work shall terminate as
of the date such litigation is filed.<O:P></O:P></span></p>
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Does this clear up the confusion? If so I'll incorporate this into the
agreement and motion to accept this animal.<br>
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Bob<br>
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I understood the intent. What was fuzzy for me was the wording. That clause uses the word "entity" twice, but when speaking about license revocation it does not specify which of the earlier noted entities it was referring to.
Jason
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Subject: Re: [mapguide-internals] PSC: Contributor Agreements
Trevor,
I read it and did not get it either, so I consulted our current lawyer Jennifer Daehler. Hopefully Jennifer's explanation below makes sense:
I can understand the question. This issue gets handled different ways by different open source groups. In this form, the intent is that the suing entity's patent license is revoked. Here's an example to help make it clearer (I hope I won't cause further confusion! :-)):
"A" is a contributor to OSGeo under this Agreement. So OSGeo has the right to license A's contributions to the MapGuide OS project.
"Entity X" decides to license MapGuide OS from OSGeo. Entity X then decides that the portion of the MapGuide OS project that came from A actually infringes on one of Entity X's patents. Entity X decides to sue A (or decides to sue any other licensee of the MapGuide project) alleging that A's contribution infringes Entity X's patent.
This provision says that if Entity X takes this course, then A can take the position with Entity X that Entity X's patent license to A's contribution has been revoked.
In reality, there have not been too many patent infringement actions launched against open source projects. However, the fact remains that open source projects have very little leverage against patent infringement actions. This provision is an attempt to provide some retribution for instituting patent lawsuits against contributors to the project. It's not any guarantee by a long shot, but it's a mechanism that a number of open source projects have adopted.
Thanks,
Bob
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