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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218253423-22032006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I haven't tried it. I'm sure it would work fine, but
it seems like an awful lot of work to take a Shape file and copy it from one
network location to another (the repository)......... And what about those 1 GB
Shape files? It's a lot of package and data shuffling to keep your
repository data in synch with the source data. I would like to be able to
point the repository location to reference the source data in my chosen network
location. Sort of like MapGuide 6.5 UDL files, but you could still retain
the managed data aspect. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218253423-22032006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In the case of converting your source to SDF+, some of us
would rather use FME scripts to update the SDF files in the repository.
This would be OK if there was an easy way to know where in the repository that
feature source is created when it is initially defined.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=1>Andy </FONT></SPAN><BR></P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Edward Zimmerman
[mailto:edward.zimmerman@autodesk.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 22,
2006 3:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SDF load problems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regarding “Many of us
will want to update our data through external processes”, has anyone tried to
write some code which does the following?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
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style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Use the
Studio Load API to create the package locally from the latest source
data.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
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</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Copy the
resulting package file into the Package directory on the
server.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
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</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Use the
MGOS Admin service API to apply this updated
package.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Would this meet most of
your needs to update the source flat file data wrapped by FeatureSource
resources?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Andy
Morsell [mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:03
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry, I should have
clarified that my rant pertains to flat files only. Database connections
will be direct to their source.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->Andy
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Butler,
Juan P [mailto:jpbutler@co.pinellas.fl.us] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:46
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wow. So you’re
saying that if and when a provider for Oracle Spatial comes along, we won’t be
able to define the connection to the database and have the data come directly
from that connection? It basically dumps the data (that point in
time) into a repository that resides in on the MG server?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can someone from
Autodesk comment on this? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Juan Butler - Senior
Programmer/Analyst<BR><st1:PersonName w:st="on">GIS</st1:PersonName>
Applications<BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Pinellas</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> Information Systems<BR><A
href="mailto:jpbutler@pinellascounty.org">jpbutler@pinellascounty.org</A><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Andy
Morsell [mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:37
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This is where using a
managed data structure is a detriment, in my opinion. Many of us will want
to update our data through external processes and there is no easy way to just
copy files into the repository or point to an existing network location. I
think this is going to become a much bigger problem as people put these systems
into production and realize that they have to "load" their data into
repositories. It's also going to be a large problem for keeping data up to
date with ongoing system maintenance. Scheduled process are going to be a
necessity to ensure that the data in the repository is in synch with the source
data. And, in the case of large source datasets, the entire dataset will
have to be reloaded as there is no incremental update
method. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I believe (but have not
yet done this) that the Studio API is going to have to be used to load these
resources, not the server API.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->Andy
Morsell, P.E.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Spatial Integrators,
Inc.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="http://www.SpatialGIS.com">http://www.SpatialGIS.com</A></SPAN></FONT>
<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Joel
Carranza [mailto:jec@gatekeeper.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:17
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ahhh. I see, I
misunderstood the use of "Packages" and didn't think too look there.
Thank you. It is working fine now. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have noticed that
imported SDFs are processed (into SDF v3, I believe). Is it currently possible
to import SDF data sources into the repository without using
Studio at all, just using the server API? Is it possible to create your own
Packages using the server API? I would be interested in doing
this for our migration tools. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Joel Carranza<BR>Gatekeeper
Systems<BR>626-449-3070 x114</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Jason
Birch [mailto:Jason.Birch@nanaimo.ca] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:42
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It looks like it's too
big. You'll probably have to "Package" the data and upload it to the
server manually, then bring it in via the site Admin web
app.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jason</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Joel
Carranza [mailto:jec@gatekeeper.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006
13:39<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [mapguide-users] SDF load
problems</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->I
am trying to load a 225 MB SDF file using MapGuide studio. I have tried any
number of different options and they all seem to fail. The process crunches for
a while, and then says "Communicating with server" and the progress bars fills
to 100% . Eventually, an error dialog is popped that says "Unable to
complete request to site. Connection lost". </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
apache logs showed the following. None of the other logs reported anything of
interest that I could see. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:33:54 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe"
restarted (pid 5284)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:34:00 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: scheduled the restart of the last (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe" process:
reached dynamicMaxClassProcs (10)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:34:00 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe"
restarted (pid 6008)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:34:21 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe" (pid
5540) terminated with exit with status '0'</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:34:38 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe" (pid
6008) termination signaled</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[Wed Mar 22 13:34:39 2006] [warn]
FastCGI: (dynamic) server "C:/Program
Files/MapGuideOpenSource/WebServerExtensions/www/mapagent/MapAgent.exe" (pid
6008) terminated with exit with status '0'</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone have any ideas about what is
going on?</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Joel Carranza<BR>Gatekeeper
Systems<BR>626-449-3070 x114</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
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