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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am using UTM Zone 12 North Meters.
As you can see from the details below, the data does draw in the map but the
objects are still at there LL coordinates. This is data that works just
fine in a Mapguide 6.5 install doing the same basic thing. The data is in
the right part of the world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We had our local Autodesk dealer try to do
something similar and they had the same problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Server is Enterprise 2007 and the
Author software is Studio 2007. Works the same on open source server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dave Wilson
[mailto:dave.wilson@autodesk.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 31, 2006
11:49 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
Access DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I can't see anything obvious from the XML.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What UTM coordinate system are you using?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Does the LL83 data actaully map within the
UTM coordinate system? I know this is a dumb question, but it's possible to
mistakenly try to display <st1:State w:st="on">Hawaii</st1:State> data from
LL83/4 in a UTM for say <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Montana</st1:place></st1:State>
which will never work. If the map was orginally created with the data in UTM
it's extent was set to that of the first layer imported. This may not be the
full extent of the UTM coordinate system. Are you sure that when you zoom out
the data isn't in the correct place within the UTM extent and it's just a zoom
issue?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dave</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Gord
McKenzie [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">gord.mckenzie@canam.com</st1:PersonName>]
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 31, 2006
8:10 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
Access DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here is the result of my getresourcedata
query. Does this help clarify where the problem is occurring?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As this happens right in the Autodesk
Studio tool, shipping version, I wonder if anyone from Autodesk can tell me
what they think might be going on here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Traian Stanev
[mailto:traian.stanev@autodesk.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 30, 2006
4:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
Access DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Reprojection is done on a stream of data that is independent of the
source -- SDF, SHP, Oracle, etc. all pass through the same code for
reprojection. That's why it has to be a problem with the way that code gets the
coordinate system from the FDO provider (or the provider giving it the wrong
coordinate system). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It makes sense that the data still displays because one of the possible
fallbacks in that code is to default to identity transform. So your LL data
will (incorrectly in this case) display at UTM coordinates close to the UTM
origin (between 0 and 180 meters).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Gord McKenzie [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">gord.mckenzie@canam.com</st1:PersonName>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 8/30/2006 5:33 PM <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
Access DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not sure if this means much but the data
is actually drawn on the map. If I pan and zoom to the LL coordinates I
find my data is there. So my source data is in LL and my map in
UTM. The weblayout preview shows me that I am zoomed to the extents of my
UTM window. Never the less, the data from my access table is still drawn
at it’s LL coordinates. Going to try this with a SQL Server table
and see if that makes any difference.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I used the getresourcedata function to get
an XML output of the Access data source and it would seem to confirm that it
knows about LL83 and only LL83.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Anyone actually successfully transforming
LL cords from a DB to something else and if so what database are you using?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gord </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Traian Stanev
[mailto:traian.stanev@autodesk.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 30, 2006
1:40 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
Access DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>One thing I can think of would be if your
ODBC connection lists more than one coordinate system when queried by the
server and the server then could end up using the wrong one for repro, which
would result in the behavior you describe. Another possibility is that it
didn't parse the WKT string correctly for the ODBC connection, although that's
unlikely, given that LL83 is a popular one.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Traian</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Gord
McKenzie [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">gord.mckenzie@canam.com</st1:PersonName>]
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 30, 2006
3:34 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mapguide-users] Access
DB and coord systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have a table in access with lat and long. I can
create and successfully Test Connection to the ODBC database which is
identified as LL83. I can create a layer, a map and a web layout that
will show this data. If I set my map coord system to UTM zone, the data
is not transformed. I can add shape and sdf layers that are LL83 source
and reproject just fine. Only DB data sources don’t seem to want to
reproject.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Can anyone offer any reason or advice?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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