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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=781334818-02102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yes, I understand that you need to be
cautious.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=781334818-02102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would like to hear more about your
issues.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=781334818-02102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You can contact me on my email <A
href="mailto:haris@sl-king.com">haris@sl-king.com</A>. I suppose it is too much
for this list</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=781334818-02102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Haris</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Brad Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6@msn.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 02, 2006 8:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE FDO
provider<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks
Haris,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I am still in
the planning stage. Not wanting to rush into any more problems I can’t get out
of easily. I had pretty much hung my hat on oracle sdo when I discovered that
the esri implementation doesn’t really support all metadata categories. So now
the sde-fdo seems to be a cleaner easier solution. And as of yet I haven’t found
anyone who can convince me that esri will fix the inadequacies. (9.2 maybe not.)
So even though we are talking about oracle sdo 10.2.0.1 spatial data, I really
have an esri version of that. It does not contain the wkt (SRID) value, the min,
max bounding values or the tolerance. These values cannot just be inserted
because then sde loses object control of the tables.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Probably more ranting
than you want to hear. If you have further interest let me know I can fill your
ear.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brad<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When these values are
present in dbtune file the entities are created as sdo objects that have correct
metadata. But if you do arcgis doesn’t respond as
expected.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">##DEFAULTS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_LB_2
-140000.000000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_TOLERANCE_2
0.000000500000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_VERIFY
"FALSE"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_UB_2
430000.000000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_UB_1
2300000.000000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_TOLERANCE_1
0.000000500000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_LB_1
1849000.000000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ATTRIBUTE_BINARY
"LONGRAW"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_SRID
41106<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_DIMNAME_2
"y"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO_DIMNAME_1
"x"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">GEOMETRY_STORAGE
"SDO_GEOMETRY<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Haris
Kurtagic [mailto:haris@sl-king.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, October 02, 2006 12:57
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE FDO
provider</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One option for
displaying SDO_GEOMETRY from Oracle 10.2 ( and others) is to use King.Oracle
provider.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is not yet under
fdooracle subproject but binaries you can get here <A
href="http://www.sl-king.com/fdooracle">www.sl-king.com/fdooracle</A>.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Haris</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Brad
Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6@msn.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, October 02, 2006 7:48
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [mapguide-users] ArcSDE FDO
provider</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As there is no
discussion or mailing list for the arcsde fdo provider, and the oracle fdo only
has the commits list available… I would like to ask a question
here.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Q I am running Oracle
10.2.0.1 database. Using oracle sdo_geometry as my sde (10g) datatype. It would
seem at first glance that I have several options for display in mapguide server.
However I notice that the arcsde fdo specifically states 9.2.0.6 Of my two
oracle installations neither has that specific version (9.2.0.5 and 10.2.0.1).
Will this restriction be rectified? Oracle version jumping is not a walk in the
park, and I wouldn’t consider it in the hopes that it might work and there might
be a new version next month that would support only one more version jump. ygtp
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not that I want to
reconsider but can someone enlighten me on the many options. What the pros and
cons of each are and what an industry trend may be in the near
future?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">GML<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OGR<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SVG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SDO<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">PostGIS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW there is an sde 9.1
for 10g<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>