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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BTW if you tell oracle you have users accessing
a web application they will sell you application server on top of the oracle
database. It is not enough that they get you for unlimited user access. They
also want to be paid for the internet access.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You should try to wiggle out of the
application server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Francisco Javier
Rojas Duran [mailto:francisco.rojas@dasoft.com.mx] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 19, 2006
3:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Andy Morsell'; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> unicorn_admirer@yahoo.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
MapGuide Users & Oracle Users</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>Hi:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>As Andy says there
is two licensing schemas, by named user or by processor , if you wonder how
Oracle sell you named user license, Oracle would ask you “How many REAL
users access your Web Application?” If your answer is “It is uncountable”
Oracle will sell you a license per processor if not they are going to sell you
a license per real user accessing you Web Application (or MapGuide Studio),
this is independent of how many users are connected from
DataSources/DataConnections from MapGuide to Oracle DataBase.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>CSE. Francisco <st1:PersonName
ProductID="Javier Rojas" w:st="on">Javier Rojas</st1:PersonName> Durán <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Verdana><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#1F497D'>IT Manager - Oracle
Specialist<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Division de Tecnologias de Información</span></b><br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Grupo DaSoft S.A. de C.V.</span></i> </span></font><span
lang=ES-MX><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>De:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Andy
Morsell [mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> Sábado, 16 de Diciembre
de 2006 12:15 p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-users]
MapGuide Users & Oracle Users</span></font><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This question may be
better suited for the Oracle sales and licensing folks. Technically, a
connection to the Oracle database from MapGuide would be by the same
"user", but I believe that Oracle will look at it as each user
accessing the overlying MapGuide application.</span></font><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It sounds like Oracle is
not doing named user licensing for new contracts anymore (which follows the
industry trend). Instead, new licensing is done using the CPU licensing
model. This would definitely make it easier for you when determining what
sort of license you need for your web GIS application.</span></font><span
lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This page is helpful: <a
href="http://orafaq.com/wiki/Oracle_Licensing">http://orafaq.com/wiki/Oracle_Licensing</a></span></font><span
lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Andy Morsell, P.E.</span></font><span lang=ES> <br>
</span><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Spatial
Integrators, Inc.</span></font><span lang=ES> <br>
</span><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Tahoma'><a
href="http://www.SpatialGIS.com">http://www.SpatialGIS.com</a></span></font> <span
lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Rahul
[mailto:unicorn_admirer@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:44
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mapguide-users] MapGuide
Users & Oracle Users</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Can Somebody help me
by telling the relationship between Mapguide users and Oracle users?
Suppose there are 3 users accessing the Web service via Mapguide interface and
all those users View Spatial Data that was stored in the Oracle Database (just
view, not edit). How many user connections will Mapguide make to the
Oracle Database? 1, 3, or something else? What if one of those user disconnect
and come back in? What if mapguide users are just idle .What kind of
Oracle Database License useful for the WebGIS Application developed using
MapGuide WebServer-Named User/Multiplexing or Processor Based
License for this application )? Any other cases if you can suggest of
will be highly appreciable. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Max<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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