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color=#0000ff size=2>I agree, the thing is that there's no MG managed wrappers
we can leverage to talk to the repository manager directly. If we had one, we
could start from that point on. Could we use Meastro API for repository objects
serialization/deserialization in managed fashion then?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375393109-26062008><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff size=2>Maksim Sestic</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kenneth
Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 26, 2008
11:30<BR><B>To:</B> MapGuide Users Mail List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[mapguide-users] Silverlight/Moonlight Viewer<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Yes, the http roundtrip time is a beast.<BR><BR>I think the server is
(partly) divided, with one part being a repository manager.<BR>You can already
retrieve resources with calls, and coordinate data with another.<BR>The MgApi
interacts directly with the server, it is still serialized, but binary.<BR>The
MgApi uses the loopback connection, but does not use a webserver, and has no
http headers.<BR><BR>So you can still do it, but I agree that it would make
sense to divide the different parts more rigidly.<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
</PRE><BR><BR>Maksim Sestic skrev:
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color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Kenneth,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I guess that someone :-) needs to build a
tier-neutral repository viewer first, then leverage it's API via
Silverlight/Moonlight. Presumably using .NET. Currently, the engine is called
MapGuide Server :-) but it's kernel is server-tier oriented and any external
communication with it goes via Http on mandatory base. It would be perfect if
we had respository manager as a separate API - representing the actual
core. Then, a web-tier API (another component) leverages repository API to
talk over Http with thin clients. So developers might pick if they want to use
either web-tier approach (i.e. JavaScript) or want to talk via SOAP/linking to
the repository manager directly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=859042108-26062008><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff size=2>Don't know actually... just a couple of thoughts from my
side.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=859042108-26062008>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><SPAN class=859042108-26062008>Maksim
Sestic</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
June 26, 2008 10:04<BR><B>To:</B> MapGuide Users Mail List<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [mapguide-users] Silverlight/Moonlight
Viewer<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>Silverlight uses GDI+, which also supports hardware
acceleration.<BR>I would prefer Silverlight over Java because it intergrates
better with the html DOM (IMO).<BR><BR>As for codebase, the current viewers
are based on Javascript, and they are limited to <BR>manipulating pre-rendered
images.<BR><BR>The DWF viewer is some of it, but it is still ActiveX
based.<BR>I suppose one could make plugins for all browsers, but it still
difficult <BR>to persuade regular web users to install it.<BR><BR>Since
Silverlight/Moonlight is more likely to be installed already,<BR>and backed by
Microsoft, it will probably be easier.<BR><BR>Flash is another option, but it
is terribly hard to work with (IMO).<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
</PRE><BR><BR>Carl Jokl skrev:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:18128249.post@talk.nabble.com type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I think that there could potentially be a number of alternatives to using an
Active X based viewer. I could see potential also for both Flash or Java to
create a viewer too. One problem with the Active X viewer in relation to the
clients of the company I work for is the security / administrative problem
for our clients. Organisations internet security policies could interfere
with deployment of an Active X control. I would think though that the same
issue would apply to a Java based viewer too. Silverlight might work better
in this regard.
One of the reasons I find the Java option interesting is the availability of
JOGL essentially allowing a Applet or Web Start application to be able to
take advantage of Hardware accelerated graphics. I don't know if any
alternative viewers have been worked on. If much of MapGuide is open source
would that include the viewer? If so it might be possible to start from the
existing viewer source code and port it to another platform.
Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Has anyone started or is considering starting development of a viewer in
Silverlight/Moonlight?
Such a viewer should be able to achieve performance that is comparable
to the MapGuide 6.5 viewer,
without the need for an ActiveX plugin.
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Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
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