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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The trick is multiple layers. One layer zoomed out that has been generalized, then zoom in to a more accurate layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Martin Morrison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Application Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Engineering Design Systems, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3780 Peters Creek Rd Ext SW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Roanoke, VA 24018<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>540.345.1410<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>gis.edsi.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Warren Medernach<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 28, 2011 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> MapGuide Users Mail List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mapguide-users] MGE performance. It's soooooo Slllllllooooooowwww<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Something else I've found is that you just cannot show as much data in the initial view in MGE like you could in MG6.x. I've seen many MG6.x sites that had dozens of layers turned on in the initial view that just made no sense to be on at that view scale. But... the old technology handled it fine, so people expect the new technology to behave exactly like the old one.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I guess what I'm trying to say is, you need to be much more 'prudent' with your display ranges, and what layers really need to be turned on, in MGE to get decent performance.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Warren<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Martin Morrison <<a href="mailto:martin.morrison@edsi.com">martin.morrison@edsi.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I agree on using the AJAX viewer. Put the data in SQL server, index the geom, use AJAX and fly...if you need help, let me know.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Martin Morrison</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Application Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Engineering Design Systems, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>3780 Peters Creek Rd Ext SW</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Roanoke, VA 24018</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>540.345.1410</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://gis.edsi.com" target="_blank">gis.edsi.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapguide-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew DeMerchant<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 28, 2011 1:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> MapGuide Users Mail List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mapguide-users] MGE performance. It's soooooo Slllllllooooooowwww</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What, specifically, can't you do with the AJAX viewer? I've certainly noticed the serious performance slowdown with Fusion (vs AJAX), which is why I'm still using the AJAX viewer, myself. My suggestion would be to try to figure out if you really can't do what you'd like with the AJAX viewer (if it's fast enough for you, I mean).<br><br>Andrew<br><br><br>On 11/01/28 2:05 PM, frosty1_4me wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Hi,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We have been working on a complete migration from 6.5 to MGE as a pilot to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>see if we can actually move to the new platform since the 6.5 software is no<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>longer supported.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We have brought across everything from our 6.5 app to the new MGE framework<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(using fusion due to the required functionality), we have also made alot of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>changes in an attempt to speed up our data. We currently use SQL for our<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>db's, but we've went so far as to setup static tables instead of news in the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>db, we have also imported data and stored in directly in the SDF's to try<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and speed things up, but nothing we have tried really makes a difference. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The performance of MGE using Fusion is unbelievabley slow and there doesn't<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>seem to be anything we can do.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Take for example a simple SDF3 of parcels. We created an SDF3 that has<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>about 23k parcels and instead of linking it to a db, we attached the data to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the parcels in an attempt to speed up the flyouts in MGE. The data is only<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>a simple ID, and another db field for testing purposes. We used the tooltip<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>method in MGE and we also tried using an aspx page to load the simple<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>dataset instead of the tooltip directly accessing the data from the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>attribute list in MGE. The results were the same, slow flyout loading<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>times. To make things worse, if we turned on a layer which has alot of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>data, then tested the flyouts again for the parcels, it takes about 15secs<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>for the flyout to appear. Obviously thats not acceptable.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I don't know what else we can do with all of this. The performance of MGE<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>is absolutely horrible, and after using 6.5 for so long we actually are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>considering going to a completely different GIS software. (Esri?)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>How are others dealign with this performance issue? The basic AJAX viewer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>is faster, but you also don't have the tools and flexablitly that you do<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>with the Fusion setup.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div style='margin-top:24.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#CCCCCC' align=center></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:24.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'><a href="http://www.gemtec.ca/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=200 height=69 id="_x0000_i1026" src="?ui=2&ik=12e68cc8cc&view=att&th=12dce2c4a9de0031&attid=0.0.1&disp=emb&zw" alt="GEMTEC Limited"></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Andrew DeMerchant</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333'><br><br>tel: 506.453.1025 / toll-free: 1.877.243.6832<br>fax: 506.453.9470 </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>mapguide-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>