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</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);background:white">Thanks Gordon,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">We are aware that migration will take months !<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Unfortunately with the previous points, we're
somewhat forced to migrate.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Our action plan is the following : <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> 1. Keep our aims web viewer
(our licenses are permanent) and provide some improvements.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> 2. Provide some Map/Feature
services based on our oracle database (sdo_geometry) to SAP.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> 3. Slowly reinvent our web viewer, to
have something younger, the current viewer has almost 10 years.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Data is very important for us. Therefore we take
the choice to continue with Oracle Database and sdo_geometry.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">To provide data via mapservices, it’s very easy !
Unfortunately, you’ve right, for crud, it’s more complicated.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">We have enable sde on the database and created some
working tables (with st_geometry), when data is created/updated/deleted,
triggers are processing data <span> </span>and put it into
our sdo schema.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Layers are the biggest problem for us.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Mapguide manages layer as an object, with a lot of
properties, the power of this object is the collection of scale range.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In Arcgis, a layer has just one scale range.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In Mapguide, if I want a layer “Milepost” be shown as
a point from 5000- 500<span> </span>then<span> </span>with a symbol from 499 – 0, no problem, it’s
just a layer “milepost”.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In Argis, we need two layers </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>L</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">For the viewer, I think that for the future,
openlayers will be the best choice. With openlayers, we have weak coupling with
the map server. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">So I’m practically sur that a migration to a new
Gis Server will take less time.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Arcgis API/ Geocortex are more specific for esri,
and not flexible for a potential future migration.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">On the other hand, I found : <span> </span><span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/infrastructure-map-server/learn-explore/caas/simplecontent/content/autodesk-infrastructure-map-server-end-life-faq.html" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline">https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/infrastructure-map-server/learn-explore/caas/simplecontent/content/autodesk-infrastructure-map-server-end-life-faq.html</a><span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-autodeskstylesmedium" style="margin:0cm 0cm 33.75pt;background:white;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><strong><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Special Offer from Esri</span></strong><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-autodeskstylesmedium" style="margin:0cm 0cm 33.75pt;background:white;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:1.5rem;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Another consideration is this offer from Esri.
With the recently <a href="http://www.infrastructure-reimagined.com/autodesk-esri" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)">announced collaboration</span></a> between Autodesk
and Esir, Esri is making a special offer available to AIMS customers: Between
January 7, 2018 through December 31, 2018, each seat of AIMS, regardless of
contract plan (maintenance or subscription), will be eligible to receive a seat
of Esri <a href="http://www.esri.com/en/arcgis/products/arcgis-enterprise/overview" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)">ArcGIS Enterprise Standard</span></a> plus one
additional license of the Esri <a href="http://www.esri.com/en/arcgis/products/arcgis-pro/overview" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)">ArcGIS Desktop Standard</span></a>. This is a free
one-time offer for the license and the license will fall under Esri’s standard
maintenance program the following year. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="box-sizing:border-box;line-height:1.5rem;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">We have 8
seats ! So Esri must provide us : 8 ArcGIS Enterprise Standard,<span> </span>right ?<span></span></span></p>
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<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-09 21:19 GMT+02:00 GordonL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gordon.luckett@arrowgeomatics.com" target="_blank">gordon.luckett@arrowgeomatics.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Absolutely, most I.T. departments in North America are extremely risk averse.<br>
They see Open Source as a risky proposition, even if it is not so.<br>
<br>
If you have to move to ArcGIS Server, you are going to find that you have a<br>
bit of work.<br>
<br>
First, the data. You have to figure how the data is created/collected.<br>
If the data is gathered by GPS or Survey, and then imported into the system,<br>
you will have to make sure the storage mechanism still can hold it. Oracle<br>
can store the Spatial data and ArcMap can "view" the data but not edit<br>
spatial data not in the SDE Enterprise schema within Oracle.<br>
So, if you want to edit your existing data ArcMap or ArcGIS Pro, you have<br>
two choices:<br>
1. Move all the data into ESRI Schema<br>
2. Use a 3rd party tool plugin for ArcMap such as GISquirrel<br>
(<a href="https://www.gisquirrel.com/home" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gisquirrel.com/<wbr>home</a>)<br>
<br>
Or not with ESRI (i.e. QGIS)<br>
<br>
Next, the layers and Maps. MapGuide/AIMS creates layers within the XML on<br>
the server. Layers in ArcGIS Server are created as separate services (i.e.<br>
Feature or Map Services). You have to publish them from ArcCatelog, ArcMap<br>
or ArcGIS Pro. That is how you style, from the client and then publish.<br>
<br>
Once inside the ArcGIS Server, they are published but to put together a good<br>
map, you need to use:<br>
1. ArcGIS online that points to your publicly available ArcGIS Server<br>
2. ArcGIS Portal (a subset of ArcGIS online) that can be installed on your<br>
internet or public.<br>
3. ArcGIS API for Javascript - fairly easy to get going, much like the<br>
Google Maps API<br>
4. 3rd Party such as GeoCortex - a great wrapper to publish maps as a web<br>
interface (I have even tried this with MapGuide WMS/WFS layers)<br>
5. Open Source wrapper such as Leaflet or Open Layers - which can consume<br>
the ArcGIS Server Rest api. (This is how I often do MapGuide/ArcGIS mashups)<br>
<br>
<br>
So that is a bit of a migration in a nutshell.<br>
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