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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The start/stop/install/uninstall command
line options are only available on Windows and the help only shows them on
Windows. The help for Linux adds the “daemon” option which is not
shown on Windows.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Jason Birch
[mailto:Jason.Birch@nanaimo.ca] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November 1, 2006 1:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dev@mapguide.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-dev] RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Me too</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Is there a behaviour associated with
install/uninstall on unix? Maybe adding the appropriate rc start and
stop files (showing my lack of recent unix experience)? Or is this
Windows-only?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jason</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Bruce
Dechant [mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 01, 2006
12:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dev@mapguide.osgeo.org; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-dev] RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Traian – I like this idea! Nice and
clean and no special characters. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Traian Stanev</st1:PersonName> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> October 31, 2006 8:51 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dev@mapguide.osgeo.org; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName>; dev@mapguide.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [mapguide-dev] RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Or, you can drop the - and / altogether and have something like:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>mgserver start<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>mgserver stop<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>mgserver run<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This would be similar to the apache command line, the
subversion command line client, the ifconfig tool on Linux, the net command on
Windows, etc., etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Traian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Tom Fukushima <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 10/31/2006 10:22 PM <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName>;
dev@mapguide.osgeo.org <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mapguide-dev] RE:
[mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Yes, I would like to see both formats ("/"
and "-") supported as well.<br>
<br>
But when the user gets the command line help by typing "mgserver -?"
or<br>
"mgserver --help" (note the double dash), I propose that we only show<br>
the "-" versions of the options. Of course, this is a bit
confusing to<br>
those users who want to figure out what /interactive means; Bruce, why<br>
are we changing "interactive" to "run"? Or will
"mgserver -interactive"<br>
also work?<br>
<br>
<br>
So typing "mgserver --help" outputs:<br>
<br>
The following is a list of supported command line options:<br>
<br>
-? or --help<br>
Displays this information.<br>
<br>
-install <Name><br>
Installs the server as a service. Automatically
starts the<br>
service.<br>
<br>
Default service display name installed:<br>
"MapGuide Server"<br>
<br>
You can use a different display name for the
service if you<br>
specify an<br>
optional "Name".<br>
<br>
-run<br>
Runs the server interactively as an application
instead of a<br>
service.<br>
<br>
-start<br>
Starts the server service. Note: The service
must be installed.<br>
<br>
-stop<br>
Stops the server service. Note: The service must
be installed.<br>
<br>
-testfdo <Filename><br>
Runs the FDO unit tests.<br>
<br>
Default output of the FDO unit tests will be the
console unless<br>
you<br>
specify an optional "Filename". The
output to the "Filename" will<br>
be<br>
in XML.<br>
<br>
-test <Test> /o <Filename><br>
Runs the server unit tests.<br>
<br>
By default all of the unit tests will be run
unless you specify an<br>
optional "Test" to run. If you specify
"List" as the test to run<br>
you<br>
will get a list of the available unit tests.<br>
<br>
Default output of the unit tests will be the
console unless you<br>
specify<br>
an optional "Filename". The output to
the "Filename" will be in<br>
XML.<br>
<br>
-uninstall<br>
Uninstalls an installed server service.
Automatically stops the<br>
service<br>
before uninstalling.<br>
<br>
<br>
Note: Only 1 command line option can be used at a time.<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bruce Dechant<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:49 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<br>
<br>
I will be easy enough to support both. I'll update the RFC to reflect<br>
this.<br>
<br>
Bruce<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Andy Morsell [<a href="mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com">mailto:amorsell@spatialgis.com</a>]<br>
Sent: October 31, 2006 12:42 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<br>
<br>
I agree, it's probably not a big issue. It depends on how much work it<br>
would be on Bruce's end to support backwards compatibility. If it would<br>
be relatively easy, then may as well do it. If it would require a large<br>
effort, then the current console response to an incorrect parameter<br>
should be sufficient for users to figure it out on their own.<br>
<br>
<br>
Andy<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Paul Spencer</st1:PersonName> [<a
href="mailto:pspencer@dmsolutions.ca">mailto:pspencer@dmsolutions.ca</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:29 AM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<br>
<br>
I am normally a big fan of backwards compatibility too, but I really<br>
don't see this as a big issue. Perhaps if the tool just spits out an<br>
appropriate message if called with incorrect parameters?<br>
<br>
Then again, windows users are most likely used to the / style of adding<br>
parameters so perhaps that makes it worthwhile supporting both?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 31-Oct-06, at 2:08 PM, Andy Morsell wrote:<br>
<br>
> I agree with Frank in that keeping it backwards compatible with the<br>
> older command line parameters while in the future only documenting the<br>
<br>
> new ones would be the best. There are many references, mostly in<br>
> archived messages in the mapguide-users mailing list, to the current<br>
> parameter syntax that new users are bound to run across (and try to<br>
> use) when doing research.<br>
><br>
> Regarding the RFC format, that seems to work very well.<br>
><br>
> Andy<br>
><br>
> From: Bruce Dechant [<a href="mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com">mailto:bruce.dechant@autodesk.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:20 AM<br>
> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">psc@mapguide.osgeo.org</st1:PersonName><br>
> Subject: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!<br>
><br>
> Hi All,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I wrote up a simple MapGuide RFC to give our process a trial run.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MG_RFC_1_-">http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MG_RFC_1_-</a><br>
> _Commandline_parameter_changes<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Please have a look and post any feedback.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Bruce<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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