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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=530131119-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In my organization we are an Oracle shop and we are looking
at deploying applications to our satellite offices (for Intranet use and some
offices do not have high speed connectivity). We are looking at all
options related to spatial technologies and Oracle fits very well into our
organization as we have developers and DBAs who have extensive experience with
Oracle (and finding good Oracle people is a breeze compared to other spatial
DBMSes) - also using Oracle allows us to tap into a tremendous amount of
resources (online forums, 1000s of books, 100s of training courses, rich talent
pool, etc.). Also as mentioned in my second post it opens the most doors
for us - we can swap out commercial vendor A with B and have no impact to our
DBMS (well as long as they are not ESRI) and I assume we are not alone and other
organizations would like to use Oracle XE in some capacity.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=530131119-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>We are able to use Oracle XE DBMS (based on an export
(sub set of features) from our enterprise database) deploy them in the satellite
offices for Intranet mapping applications or it even opens the doors for other
things such as mobile computing on tablets or laptops (using Oracle XE and
MapGuide?). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=530131119-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I was not implying that we want to run Oracle XE to support
an huge organization but in the instances I mentioned above, the limitations of
Oracle XE do not impose anything of concern for us. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=530131119-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><EM>My point here still is that if MapGuide Enterprise or
Open Source would support Oracle XE we would be eternally grateful. (this
would also apply to Autodesk Map since the FDOs can be shared - we are a Map
Show as well).</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></EM></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=530131119-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As well, how long has Oracle Locator and Spatial been
around versus other DBMS engines with spatial support? Oracle is an
extremely proven platform (been around for years - and runs in
massive organizations) and the other DBMS with spatial capabilities are in
comparison just starting to mature and evolve.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Paul Ramsey
[mailto:pramsey@refractions.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 08, 2006
11:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[mapguide-users] New Oracle FDO provider<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I think hardware limitations that approximate a mid-range desktop, as
opposed to even a medium range server, along with the "locator only" restriction
constitute "hobbled" pretty fairly. And to get out of the paddock, that next
step up the licensing ladder is a doozy...</DIV>
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<DIV>(PS - And check out the on-disk size of Oracle geometries before you
pronounce that 4GB (four! gigabytes! yah!) of database storage more that enough
too. Add the format fluff to the fact that extra space is needed to manage
transactions and indexes and you'll find that 4GB tablespace segment is used up
pretty quick and you're reaching for the cheque-book before you know
it...)</DIV>
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<DIV>On 8-Sep-06, at 8:57 PM, Andy Morsell wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=388054803-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm with you. Whether you like Oracle (the
<U>commercial</U> software company) or not, their database software is great.
I'm not quite sure how one defines "hobbled" but Oracle XE seems robust enough
for most web applications. The only limitations are 4 GB of total DB
information, 1 GB maximum of allocated RAM, and the usage of 1 CPU per
install. Of course, the spatial capabilities (as discussed in this mailing
list a couple of days ago) are the same as Oracle Locator. So, in this way, it
would be very suitable for most web and lightweight apps, but might be a
stretch for enterprise GIS purposes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=1>Andy Morsell, P.E.</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=1>Spatial Integrators,
Inc.</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Tahoma size=1><A
href="http://www.SpatialGIS.com">http://www.SpatialGIS.com</A></FONT></SPAN>
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<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Ross Smith [<A
href="mailto:r0ss@shaw.ca">mailto:r0ss@shaw.ca</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday,
September 08, 2006 8:44 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:users@mapguide.osgeo.org">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: [mapguide-users] New Oracle FDO provider<BR></FONT><BR></P>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290142403-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>"Hobbled" - it is a full functioning version of the
Oracle DBMS with tons of spatial capabilities (the entire locator engine in
fact with a few Oracle spatial gems hidden as well - we have discovered a few
that are available). Also, Oracle is the world's largest database vendor and I
read recently (in an IDC report - I think it was) that something like 80-90%
of the world's spatial data that are stored in a DBMS are stored in
Oracle.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290142403-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Oracle XE includes the ability to do spatial queries,
tons of spatial data manipulation procedures such as simplifying features,
manipulating data in just about every possible way, the ability to do
coordinate transformations, store and manipulate linear referencing data (does
postGIS come with LRS capabilities?) and best of all it is completely scalable
into the entire Oracle suite (since it is a version of the Oracle Standard
platform - with views, triggers, stored procedures, etc.). Check it out for
yourself (<A
href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/xe/index.html">http://www.oracle.com/technology/xe/index.html</A>)
- the GUI does not offer the true power - the command line tools are where the
power lies. I am not an Oracle salesman, just someone who wants to build a
scalable system that can open the most doors cost
effectively.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290142403-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Do not get me wrong I am a huge open source advocate
(particularly MapGuide) but the spatial vendors still do not play well with
databases (and each other) and Oracle seems to be the best common denominator
- I can use my GeoMedia Pro license to connect to Oracle XE, I would be able
to use Autodesk Map ad MapGuide if some one will provide the FDO (free or
otherwise), ESRI of course is a lost cause (and out of my equation) because it
does not have SDE bolted on top (and the direct connect is a joke) but I am
looking for an open system with flexibility in the tools I use.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290142403-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>And to me MapGuide is a phenomenal tool and Oracle XE can
allow me the flexibility to store my CAD data or GIS data (using Autodesk Map
and MapGuide if a FDO existed) and use my GIS tools such as GeoMedia and
possibly even MapInfo.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290142403-09092006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Just my two cents in four paragraphs...</FONT>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Paul Ramsey [<A
href="mailto:pramsey@refractions.net">mailto:pramsey@refractions.net</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 08, 2006 7:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:users@mapguide.osgeo.org">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [mapguide-users] New Oracle FDO provider<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>When the PostGIS FDO provider is out, I think you should look at
that. Why use a hobbled DB like XE when you can have a real one?
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<DIV>On 8-Sep-06, at 6:00 PM, Ross Smith wrote:</DIV><BR
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any
thoughts on providing support for Oracle XE? And you mention on your web
site that you may open source the FDO connector. What would you required
from the community to do so?</SPAN><O:P
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Does anyone
else know of any Oracle XE FDOs that exist? I have a tremendous amount of
interest in Oracle XE and MapGuide to build enterprise GISes.</SPAN><O:P
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Traian
Stanev [<A
href="mailto:traian.stanev@autodesk.com">mailto:traian.stanev@autodesk.com</A>]
</SPAN><BR style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span
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class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Friday,
September 08, 2006 9:17 AM</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:users@mapguide.osgeo.org">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</A></SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> RE:
[mapguide-users] New Oracle FDO provider</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After a
quick try... I got a succesful connection in MG Studio, but when trying to
create a layer, I get no feature classes listed, so either the tables I have
in the Oracle server are all weird or something else is going on... I'll try
to call the provider directly from a test program to see if I get any data
back.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Haris
Kurtagic [<A href="mailto:haris@sl-king.com">mailto:haris@sl-king.com</A>]
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Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:59 PM</SPAN><BR
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class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:users@mapguide.osgeo.org">users@mapguide.osgeo.org</A></SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
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[mapguide-users] New Oracle FDO provider</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am
working on new FDO provider for Oracle.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You can
read more about it and download it here: </SPAN><A
href="http://www.sl-king.com/fdooracle"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline">www.sl-king.com/fdooracle</SPAN></A></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is not
open source project yet, but it is free to use.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would
appreciate if you try it and if you give me some
feedback.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P
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