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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=868563519-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hmm, that's interesting... the datetime fields I have
in this dbase are showing up in Studio?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=868563519-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Warren </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Campbell, Keith A
[mailto:keith.campbell@atkinsglobal.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 30,
2006 11:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=411203817-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>On a similar note, SQL Server DateTime and SmalDateTime
type fields don't show up in Studio (although the tables
do).</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Warren Medernach
[mailto:warren.medernach@imaginit.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 30 October 2006
17:21<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=335361117-30102006>Update...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=335361117-30102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=335361117-30102006>It seems that this might not be a user/permission
issue... After more digging I have discovered something that seems
extremely bizarre to me...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=335361117-30102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=335361117-30102006>If I have a table that has a field(s) defined as
'ntext'... the table WILL NOT show up in Studio.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=335361117-30102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=335361117-30102006>If I change these fields to say 'nvarchar', the tables
WILL show up in Studio...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=335361117-30102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=335361117-30102006>Can anybody shed some light on
this?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=335361117-30102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=335361117-30102006>Fyi
Dave, at this point I'm using the sa user just to try to get this working.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR>Warren</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Dave Wilson
[mailto:dave.wilson@autodesk.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 30, 2006
10:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=184565915-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The master database is the default when using SQLServer if
I am not mistaken. What login are you using to access the tables? It should be
one with at least select privileges against 1 or more tables within your
database. You should ensure you are using SQLServer authentication and not
windows.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=184565915-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Warren Medernach
[mailto:warren.medernach@imaginit.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 30, 2006
7:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=542324814-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ok, I got a little further on this...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=542324814-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In my ODBC Connection I was changing the 'default database'
to use my dbase, and doing this it wouldn't show me any tables. If I
toggle this 'Off', it then shows me the master db tables...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=542324814-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm starting to wonder if this is a 'permissions' issue
with my db?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=542324814-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Warren</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT> </DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Warren Medernach
[mailto:warren.medernach@imaginit.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 30, 2006
8:37 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the Info Keith!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Did you need to specify or change any settings in your ODBC
connection?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Are you using SQL Server or NT Authentication in the ODBC
connection?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>What credentials are you using on the MapGuide Studio
side?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't know what else to try?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=446193114-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>It won't 'Show' me the tables, or save the Coord Sys with
the Connection in Studio?....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=446193114-30102006>Warren</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Campbell, Keith A
[mailto:keith.campbell@atkinsglobal.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 30,
2006 8:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Warren,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm not sure that this is going to be much help other than
to confirm that you should be able to do what you want. I can't see anything
you're doing wrong based on your description.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Firstly, yes, the ODBC option is the way to go to create
your join. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have got this arrangement working, though I have not had
the problem you mention regarding assignment of the coordinate system. I've
saved an arbitrary coordsys in my data connection and everything works.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Are you using version 1.0.2? It has a number of
enhancements in this area. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I've also found that if the SQL database is not local to
the MapGuide Service, this significantly impacts the performance, making
configuration of the join / layer frustrating to say the
least.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=294075213-30102006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Keith</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Warren Medernach
[mailto:warren.medernach@imaginit.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2006
16:50<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101384915-27102006></SPAN><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=101384915-27102006>Correction...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=101384915-27102006>Subject should read: SQL Server FDO Provider vs.
ODBC Provider...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=101384915-27102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>W<SPAN
class=101384915-27102006>arren</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Warren Medernach
[mailto:warren.medernach@imaginit.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 27, 2006
9:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> users@mapguide.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[mapguide-users] SQL Server Provider vs. FDO Provider for a feature
join...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=160475114-27102006>Hello
all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=160475114-27102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=160475114-27102006>I want to create a
join from and SDF feature source, to a SQL Server database.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=160475114-27102006>I read in the list
that the SQL Server FDO Provider is only for accessing datastores within SQL
Server (datastores created with Autodesk Map). </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=160475114-27102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=160475114-27102006>So, that would leave
the ODBC Provider to connect to SQL Server for the join. However, I cannot
get this to work... I can choose the ODBC Provider, and specify the DSN to
my SQL Server, Test Connection is successful, but when I try to set the
coordinate system, this is never 'saved'. This causes a problem,
as it seems to give an error anytime you try to join a feature source that
doesn't have a coordinate system assigned.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160475114-27102006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Btw, I was
successful in getting this to function with an Access
dbase...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160475114-27102006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any help and/or
guidance would be greatly appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160475114-27102006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=160475114-27102006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Warren
Medernach</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><BR><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">
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