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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Oliver,<br>
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Thanks for your reply.<br>
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On 2013-11-21 19:14, Oliver Tonnhofer wrote :<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi André,
I do know the benefits of binary packages and I do understand that it would make live easier for some people. But you have to understand that people who work on open source projects mostly "scratch their own itches". I work hard to make MapProxy stable, robust, well tested and documented and with regular releases, but I cannot please everyone. There will always be people who have new ideas for 'must-have' features, people who need more documentation, people who want more tools - and that's ok. I encourage every one to help if they think there is a need for X, but they can't expect that X becomes an "itch" for me.</pre>
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Be sure that I'm sure to speak on behalf of all Mapproxy users when
saying that they appreciate what you do very MUCH. Understand that
some of us support their non geek mates and really do without Python
and with a DEB. Recent Mila on this list is an example: one week to
try to install MP.<br>
I'm always careful to suggest least work improvements (anti "please
add voice") and I even strive to overcome my ignorance to make small
patches like Arcgis TEST à la hack. You would be surprised why it's
so important for our OSM community.<br>
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type="cite">On 20.11.2013, at 23:49, André Pirard wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I don't know how the DEBs have been
generated, but it must be with a command running in a matter of
seconds.
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It is a matter of seconds if you have a running Debian system and
all dependencies. But it's not just calling a Makefile: you need
to update the changelog, you might need to update patches, update
dependencies, etc. Cool if the .deb for the LiveDVD worked on you
system, but </blockquote>
I know, I've tried but I was learning and I needed more MP info.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:DAF3D62D-7D2C-4060-B538-DBB7652FC651@omniscale.de"
type="cite">Do you really want to autostart a developer server on
a real server? <br>
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Autostart and shortcut are optional boons. You may start and use MP
the documentation way.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:DAF3D62D-7D2C-4060-B538-DBB7652FC651@omniscale.de"
type="cite">you can't expect that all Debian and Ubuntu versions
have the same dependencies. How would you handle that? </blockquote>
The same as you did it for the DEBs you made. DEB dependencies is
doing automatically what some people do manually. Normally, they are
are the same as what the documentation lists.<br>
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As I should cope with requirements and as, just like Java, Python
installation is a matter of copying files, I have good chances of
making a well working 1.6 DEB if somebody provides an image of his
installed files. Else, we'll be using 1.5.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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