<div dir="ltr">Daniel,<div><br></div><div>Even by supposing that swig will support php7 in some not so distant future, which does not seem like an unreasonable expectation, I agree that it will very probably be cheaper to migrate the current php mapscript to support php7 than it would be to migrate it to use swig.</div><div>But in the longer run, we would have to deal with the migration to php8, etc...</div><div><br></div><div>Given that it seems to me that the migration that has to happen in the short term requires some non-trivial kind of investment, I believe that effort would be better invested in relying on swig to iron out those api changes for us, and focusing *our* effort on the single swig support rather than spreading it out on swig and php.</div><div><br></div><div>Both options are viable solutions. If there were to be a strong community investment with sufficient funding in php mapscript's future I would prefer the swig road.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 April 2016 at 23:22, Daniel Morissette <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com" target="_blank">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Backwards compatibility is a big thing, and I think it would be worth trying to upgrade the existing code instead of forcing a switch to a completely new API based on SWIG on long time users. Does swig have proper PHP support these days anyway? And does it do PHP7 at all?<br>
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Note that the current module was in big part refactored by Alan a few years ago around the PHP5 API switch so it's not as if all the lines were exactly 15 years old. :-)<br>
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More seriously, there is a migration guide here and it doesn't look that bad (easier said than done, I know):<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.php.net/phpng-upgrading" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.php.net/phpng-upgrading</a><br>
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If only I could find a few hours to dive into this...<br>
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Daniel<span class=""><br>
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On 2016-04-05 4:36 PM, thomas bonfort wrote:<br>
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On our side, having to maintain only swig instead of swig + php makes<br>
enormous sense.<br>
However migrating php mapscript to swig is going to break 100% of<br>
backwards compatibility and all php code will have to be migrated to the<br>
new php+swig API. If we wanted to go down that road (which I think is a<br>
good idea) I think it is imperative that we also provide a wrapper from<br>
php_mapscript to mapscript+swig that we would immediately mark as<br>
deprecated unless there's a community incentive (and funding) to<br>
backport new features there.<br>
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On 5 April 2016 at 19:20, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) <<a href="mailto:Steve.Lime@state.mn.us" target="_blank">Steve.Lime@state.mn.us</a><br></span><span class="">
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I was wondering if this might be an excuse to move away from the<br>
hand-rolled PHP/MapScript to Swig. It seems Swig is not yet<br>
supporting PHP7 either, although it seems like they are working it.<br>
If the PHP7 internals are really that different then we're looking<br>
at a new MapScript module anyway. I'd think trying to maintain both<br>
versions with that older codebase would be challenging to say the<br>
least. Thoughts?<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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> What is needed to get php-mapscript working on php7?<br>
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Team effort :-)<br>
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