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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>More than open mechanisms. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=264533705-23092008>I had heard
(at a conference I think) that the intent was</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>to have an open format. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=264533705-23092008>However I also later heard
that ESRI are also very keen to avoid</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>a bunch of issues such as those that occured when they
released the Shape format.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>Most notably, people only implementing parts of the
shape spec and leaving out important</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>bits like data integrity. I suppose this ends
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>up being a lot more complex for ESRI than just
releasing a spec.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>This gives some idea on likely
timing:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008><A
href="http://events.esri.com/uc/QandA/index.cfm?ConferenceID=51AD3E9D-D566-ED85-AEE0DBF4F59C45FD">http://events.esri.com/uc/QandA/index.cfm?ConferenceID=51AD3E9D-D566-ED85-AEE0DBF4F59C45FD</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><EM><SPAN class=content><B>Q:</B></SPAN> <SPAN
class=highlight>What are ESRI’s plans for opening up access to the
geodatabase?</SPAN></EM></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=content>
<P dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><EM>ESRI will provide full and open access to the
geodatabase using the following methods:</EM></SPAN></P>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left>
<UL type=disc>
<LI><EM><B><SPAN>A free and open API to the file geodatabase.
*</SPAN></B><SPAN> The file geodatabase was introduced at ArcGIS 9.2. While
ESRI would ideally like to open the file geodatabase format in a manner
similar to what we did for shapefiles when we released ArcView 2, geodatabases
are complex and can be easily corrupted outside the ArcGIS environment.
Instead, we plan to engineer a high performing and well documented API that
developers can freely embed in custom applications and that will read and
write file geodatabase datasets. This will be released after ArcGIS
9.3.</SPAN> </EM>
<LI><EM><B><SPAN>Geodatabase GML. </SPAN></B><SPAN>ESRI will release a full
geodatabase GML schema with ArcGIS 9.3. This profile will be based on the OGC
specifications and built on the simple feature GML specification adopted by
OGC this past year.</SPAN></EM></LI></UL></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>I'd kind of hope that this is just a bunch of c
libraries that we can compile on anything we want,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>but </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=264533705-23092008>ultimately we'll just have to wait and
see...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=264533705-23092008>Antti</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM, William Kyngesburye
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:woklist@kyngchaos.com">woklist@kyngchaos.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV class=Ih2E3d>On Sep 22, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Fawcett,
David wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">.gdb
files are ESRI's new File Geodatabase proprietary format. I
am<BR>quite sure that OGR/FWTools does not support
it.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>David,<BR><BR>Ah thanks. Indeed they are not
supported and it is hard to imagine they<BR>will be supported for a while.
ESRI has indicated in the past that they<BR>intend to provide an open
mechanism to access the file geodatabase and that<BR>is still likely to
happen at some point. However, I think this would be<BR>quite a few
months away at best.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>Hmmm, and if ESRI provides it,
then, like SDE, it probably won't be available for OSX (or other linux
platforms?). Bleh.<BR><BR>-----<BR>William Kyngesburye
<kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com><BR><A href="http://www.kyngchaos.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.kyngchaos.com/</A><BR><BR>"I ache, therefore I am.
Or in my case - I am, therefore I ache."<BR><BR>- Marvin
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