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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">My pull request
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/mapserver/mapserver/pull/5199">https://github.com/mapserver/mapserver/pull/5199</a>) implements a
      gutter in WMS mode.<br>
      <br>
      It is rather unobtrusive and straightforward. I am using it in
      production for quit some time now.<br>
      I could not find any side effects, but I did not try in
      combination with labeling or extremely large symbols.<br>
      <br>
      Maybe a nice moment to review and/ or test by Patrick?<br>
      <br>
      MArco <br>
      <br>
      On 17-02-16 18:01, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My
            memory is lousy I guess. Expanding the search rect used
            based on style sizes and to account for the use case Thomas
            mentions seems logical to me (more efficient), that or a
            gutter (probably easier). Needs a small RFC IMHO as I’m sure
            there would be side effects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
            terms of what might be done immediately in Patrick’s case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            wonder if using CIRCLE shapes might work. A circle must be
            defined by a minimum bounding rectangle. That is, two points
            that define the smallest square that can contain it. These
            two points are the two opposite corners of said box. Since
            the which shapes function operates on bounding boxes it
            should identify any of the circles that intersect the map
            extent.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Issues
            like this are also handled correctly with tiling (mapcache)
            if I’m not mistaken – and you can define a metatile gutter.
            Maybe that could be used. You could set up tiling and then
            make arbitrary WMS calls against mapcache if you had to, or
            even just use the tiles directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Go
            the PostGIS route as suggested by Ambrogio…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                deduikertjes [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:deduikertjes@xs4all.nl">mailto:deduikertjes@xs4all.nl</a>]
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                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:44 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> thomas bonfort
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thomas.bonfort@gmail.com"><thomas.bonfort@gmail.com></a>; Lime, Steve D (MNIT)
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Steve.Lime@state.mn.us"><Steve.Lime@state.mn.us></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Patrick Meis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Meis@stadt-muenster.de"><Meis@stadt-muenster.de></a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [mapserver-users] Rendering of
                Symbols outside map window<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            >>>That's something we may want to fix.<br>
            <br>
            If I remember correctly, Mapserver in  tile mode draws a
            slightly larger tile and crops that one (something
            configurable with GUTTER or so). I wrote my the code in my
            pull request along the same principle.<br>
            Adjusting the query extent when doing whichshapes() and
            account for the size of symbols when adjusting  the clipping
            rectangle once the feature is obtained might be more
            efficient?<br>
            <br>
            But maybe this discussion shoud be done in mapserver-dev?<br>
            <br>
            MArco<br>
            <br>
            On 15-02-16 21:23, thomas bonfort wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Steve,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">IIRC, we account for the size of
                symbols when adjusting our clipping rectangle once we
                have obtained a feature, but we do not adjust the query
                extent when doing whichshapes(). That's something we may
                want to fix.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Another use-case would also be when
                the DATA statement does something like
                "ST_Buffer(the_geom,...) as the geom"<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">thomas<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On 15 February 2016 at 17:44, Lime,
                Steve D (MNIT) <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Steve.Lime@state.mn.us" target="_blank">Steve.Lime@state.mn.us</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I
                          know. We use to account for that explicitly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
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                            deduikertjes [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:deduikertjes@xs4all.nl"
                              target="_blank">deduikertjes@xs4all.nl</a>]<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 15, 2016 2:44
                            AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> Lime, Steve D (MNIT); Patrick
                            Meis <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                                  target="_blank">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [mapserver-users]
                                Rendering of Symbols outside map window<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Steve,<br>
                                <br>
                                I think the key part in the question is
                                here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                and the center point of the symbol is no
                                longer inside the map window".<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">To my experience a
                                symbol doesn't get drawn at all when the
                                point which is symbolized is outside the
                                requested extent (WMS mode at least).<br>
                                <br>
                                To solve that I created the mentioned
                                pull request.<br>
                                <br>
                                Or do I miss something?<br>
                                <br>
                                MArco<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                On 13-02-16 00:17, Lime, Steve D (MNIT)
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">This
                                    should already be happening. The
                                    drawing code traverses a layer's
                                    class/styles to commute a selection
                                    and clipping rectangle that is
                                    larger than the map extent.
                                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
                                          mapserver-users [<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a></a>]
                                          on behalf of mdprive [<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:deduikertjes@xs4all.nl"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:deduikertjes@xs4all.nl">deduikertjes@xs4all.nl</a></a>]<br>
                                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, February
                                          12, 2016 4:15 PM<br>
                                          <b>To:</b> Patrick Meis<br>
                                          <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a></a><br>
                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                          [mapserver-users] Rendering of
                                          Symbols outside map window</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Patrick,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">i've
                                          submitted a pull request for
                                          extending the map by a buffer
                                          and then clipping it, so that
                                          partial symbols on the edge
                                          get rendered as well (wms non
                                          tiled mode).<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">maybe you
                                          can build from sources and use
                                          this patch to solve your
                                          problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">marco<br>
                                          <br>
                                          -- <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                          Op 11 feb. 2016 om 21:54 heeft
                                          Ambrogio Foletti <<a
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                                          het volgende geschreven:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Hello
                                              Patrick, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">if
                                                you are using PostGIS as
                                                datasource, I would
                                                solve the problem by
                                                integrating a st_buffer
                                                in the DATA element
                                                itself ;) The added
                                                bonus is that you will
                                                get the attribute values
                                                from a GetFeatureInfo
                                                (if implemented) in the
                                                whole buffer zone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">If
                                                not, you can try to use
                                                tile mode, and add some
                                                metabuffer (<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mapserver.org/output/tile_mode.html" target="_blank">see
                                                  mapserver doc</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">A.
                                                Foletti<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">2016-02-05
                                                10:58 GMT+01:00 Patrick
                                                Meis <<a
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        lang="DE">Hallo,
                                                        <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        lang="DE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">i have
                                                      stumbled on a
                                                      problem.<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am
                                                      simulating a
                                                      buffering of
                                                      point-data with
                                                      the help of
                                                      symbols, which I
                                                      have set to
                                                      <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">sizeunit =
                                                      meters<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">size = 760<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">These rather
                                                      big symbols
                                                      disappear from my
                                                      map when I zoom in
                                                      and
                                                      <span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">the center
                                                      point of the
                                                      symbol is no
                                                      longer inside the
                                                      map window.<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But a
                                                      significant part
                                                      of the symbol
                                                      should still be
                                                      displayed.<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is there any
                                                      possibility of
                                                      extending the
                                                      rendered map, so
                                                      that the symbols
                                                      of my points<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">are still
                                                      rendered even when
                                                      they are outside
                                                      my map window?<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Greetz<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Patrick<span
                                                        lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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