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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">In which way does the slowness appear? Is it when seeding or when serving from a pre-seeded cache? Can you give metrics about the difference in speed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">In this comparison the differences were rather small
<a href="http://blog.sogeo.services/blog/2016/07/01/mapcache-disk-vs-sqlite.html">
http://blog.sogeo.services/blog/2016/07/01/mapcache-disk-vs-sqlite.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Also by the documentation the speed should be only “a bit slower”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The SQLite based caches are a bit slower than the disk based caches, and may have write-locking issues at seed time if a high number of threads all try to insert new tiles concurrently.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">You wrote that SQLite cache is very slow for you which makes me think that there is something sub-optimal in your installation. First thing to check is if the SQLite database is on a fast disk.<br>
If SQLite cache is slow then MBTiles cache should be slow as well but I would make a test to be sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">-Jukka Rahkonen-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI">Lähettäjä:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI"> Sebastiano Laini [mailto:Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk]
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<b>Lähetetty:</b> 17. lokakuuta 2018 15:00<br>
<b>Vastaanottaja:</b> 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Kopio:</b> Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi><br>
<b>Aihe:</b> RE: mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Is there a way to improve the speed and match the speed of the sqLite3 cache with the disk one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">We have 80 websites connected to MapCache and when I tried the sqLite3 I was testing it just on one website and on a complete different server with nothing in it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sebastiano Laini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Web Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Buchanan Computing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Sebastiano Laini
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 12:43<br>
<b>To:</b> 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Rahkonen Jukka (MML)' <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Still it redirect you to that link, and btw it seems that mapcache can be used also as a fastCGI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://mapserver.org/mapcache/install.html#cgi-fastcgi-specific-instructions">https://mapserver.org/mapcache/install.html#cgi-fastcgi-specific-instructions</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Though is true that I’m reading now in the CMaker Builder section<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3E4349;background:white">MapCache can run as a FastCGI executable. Note that the overhead of FastCGI is non-negligible with respect to the throughput you may
obtain with a native Apache module. The FastCGI build is less tested, and may lag behind the Apache module version on some minor details. YMMV.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sebastiano Laini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Web Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Buchanan Computing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Rahkonen Jukka (MML) [<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 12:39<br>
<b>To:</b> Sebastiano Laini <<a href="mailto:Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk">Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk</a>>; 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> VS: mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">That documentation is about Mapserver, Mapcache is another software. It does belong to the same Mapserver but is not the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">MapCache is documented here:<br>
<a href="https://mapserver.org/mapcache/index.html#mapcache">https://mapserver.org/mapcache/index.html#mapcache</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">-Jukka Rahkonen-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI">Lähettäjä:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI"> Sebastiano Laini [<a href="mailto:Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk">mailto:Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk</a>]
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<b>Lähetetty:</b> 17. lokakuuta 2018 14:33<br>
<b>Vastaanottaja:</b> 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Kopio:</b> Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>><br>
<b>Aihe:</b> RE: mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3E4349">Well, for what I can read in the documentation of mapserver:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3E4349"><a href="https://mapserver.org/optimization/fastcgi.html">https://mapserver.org/optimization/fastcgi.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3E4349">FastCGI is a protocol for keeping cgi-bin style web applications running as a daemon to take advantage of preserving memory
caches, and amortizing other high startup costs (like heavy database connections) over many requests.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">It seems that using mapcache as fastCGI over apache modules it that should improve speed also.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sebastiano Laini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Web Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Buchanan Computing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Rahkonen Jukka (MML) [<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 12:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Sebastiano Laini <<a href="mailto:Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk">Sebastiano.Laini@BuchananComputing.co.uk</a>>; 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Could you explain your plan with some more details? What I have understood is that you have experienced that SQLite cache is slower than disk cache in your environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">What I do not understand is what you are going to reach by running Mapcache as fastcgi instead of running it as Apache module which should be the faster option, and if this has some connection with
the SQLite cache vs. disk cache comparison. Do you guess that fastcgi woud make SQLite cache faster?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">-Jukka Rahkonen-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI">Lähettäjä:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FI"> mapserver-users [<a href="mailto:mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>Puolesta </b>Sebastiano Laini<br>
<b>Lähetetty:</b> 17. lokakuuta 2018 12:16<br>
<b>Vastaanottaja:</b> 'mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org' <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Aihe:</b> [mapserver-users] mapcache fastcgi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In the end I tried MapCache with sqlite3 cache but it’s very slow compared with the disk cache, so I want to setup MapCache with fastCGI on CentOS 7.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I don’t understand what I need to install as the fastCGI link in the documentation is broken and I don’t know if is up to date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I already have apache fgcid installed from default in the httpd folder and I use PHP in fastCGI in all the domains, so I’m sure that fastCGI it works, though, I still need the fastCGI library? How can I install it in
CentOS 7?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In my apache conf I’ve already added the lines to load the mapcache module and the mapcache.xml file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">LoadModule mapcache_module modules/mod_mapcache.so<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><IfModule mapcache_module><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <Directory /path/to/directory><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Require all granted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </Directory><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> MapCacheAlias /mapcache "/path/to/directory/mapcache.xml"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"></IfModule><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I need to leave the previous configuration and add these new lines in the conf files?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">FcgidInitialEnv "MAPCACHE_CONFIG_FILE" "/path/to/mapcache/mapcache.xml<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><IfModule mod_fcgid.c><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> IPCCommTimeout 120<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> MaxProcessCount 10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> FcgidInitialEnv "MAPCACHE_CONFIG_FILE" "/path/to/mapcache/mapcache.xml"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <Location /map.fcgi><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Order Allow,Deny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Allow from all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> SetHandler fcgid-script<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </Location><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> ScriptAlias /map.fcgi "/path/to/mapcache/src/mapcache"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"></IfModule><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">And then instead of <a href="http://myserver/mapcache">
http://myserver/mapcache</a> I need to use <a href="http://myserver/fcgi-bin">http://myserver/fcgi-bin</a> to access mapcache fcgi?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sebastiano Laini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Web Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Buchanan Computing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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